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LCE Header

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Bob57, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. Jun 7, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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    TireFire

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    How? Do you have to pull the fender?
     
  2. Jun 7, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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  3. Sep 4, 2017 at 7:08 PM
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    Finally placed my order for the LCE header. Been saving up for a while and took advantage of their 10% off Labor Day sale.
     
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  4. Sep 5, 2017 at 7:04 AM
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    I bought mine during the Memorial day sale and finally installed it last month... enjoy!!!
     
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  5. Sep 12, 2017 at 7:33 PM
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    LCE Header arrived today!!!! Took advantage of their Labor Day sale. Gonna take me some time to install, though. I won't attempt to do it myself.
     
  6. Sep 12, 2017 at 10:22 PM
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    Enjoy! Are you doing the rest of the exhaust at some point?
     
  7. Sep 13, 2017 at 4:52 AM
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    Nope. I understand it doesn't make much of a difference. I'm only interested in doing the most "bang for buck" performance mods.
     
  8. Sep 13, 2017 at 5:00 AM
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    I thought the same thing. Look at the YouTube install instruction video. You'd be surprised how easy it actually is.
     
  9. Sep 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM
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    I've looked at that installation video several times, and while it appears simple to do, I'm not willing to roll the dice on my own mechanical ability to install the header. When I was younger, I wouldn't have hesitated to do it myself, though.
     
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  10. Sep 13, 2017 at 3:24 PM
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    Nothing like a heat-cycled, snapped stud to make your whole day.. my idea of fun in the sun doesn't include ez-outs or helicoil repairs.

    I'd rather pay someone to do that sort of nonsense and aggravation, and just enjoy the results. I'll keep to the light/easy accessable mods, LOL.
     
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  11. Sep 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM
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    That's totally fair. I'm stubborn and cheap lol.

    Also, my truck only had about 40k miles so I knew things would break loose just fine. If I remember correctly it took me less than 2 hours in my garage with basic tools.

    The gains are definitely noticeable. My truck struggled less in the mountains at highway speed
     
  12. Sep 20, 2017 at 9:19 PM
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    I feel your pain.:rofl:I have thought about an LCE also but just as with other things I have done on my truck? It's better to hire some younger guys that have basic knowledge of how to work on this newer stuff and pay them in beer and supervise them on the proper way to do the repair. If even necessary. It wasn't just 6 years ago that I rebuilt the front end of a '73 Cadillac Coupe DeVille under a tarp, in the snow, in puddles of water. By myself. I really have no desire to do that anymore. It takes me too long. I didn't have a spring compressor for those massive front springs on the Caddy either and they probably weighed what a Taco rear end weighs. It was two long days of cussing and fussing.

    Luckily, I know a young red-neck with friends that does just that for me. Beer and some cash and they are happy. I help out with the light lifting. He even now uses a torque wrench when tightening everything. After I said something about it. Not that he wasn't pretty accurate with the air wrench.
     
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  13. Sep 20, 2017 at 9:23 PM
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    You've got that right!!!!
     
  14. Oct 20, 2017 at 11:16 AM
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    Finally got my LCE header installed today. The labor cost was slightly less than $200 (2.5 hours @ $75/hour). Obviously, I can't speak on the benefits of the header yet, if any. I'll drive the truck this weekend and report back. My initial impression is that the truck "breathes" better. I say that based solely on the sound of the engine when accelerating -- it's a bit quieter.

    P.S. -- every time I go to my mechanic, I receive questionable advice that I didn't ask for. He said the header will reduce my power because it's bigger than the stock one.
     
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    It will reduce your low end torque ever so slightly. It increases power by shifting the power band higher in RPMs.

    My experience was it felt smoother through the RPMs and definitely helped at highway speed in the mountains
     
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  16. Oct 20, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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    OK, I drove the truck on the freeway this weekend to test out the new header. Generally, it's a very nice upgrade. I get a little more acceleration, especially going uphill. While jumping on the interstate from an uphill ramp, there's more power once I get up to maybe 50 mph, but it still takes a while to gather some steam. The truck is a lot quieter while accelerating. Previously, it always sounded like the engine was struggling. I'm not sure if the truck is faster from a hard stop, though. So far, the biggest benefit is in accelerating a little faster when the truck already has some speed on it. Glad you guys talked me into installing it.
     
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  18. Oct 23, 2017 at 6:32 AM
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    I've read (could be bs) that it takes a few tanks of gas before your ECU remaps fuel mixture and all the like with the new header install.
     
  19. Oct 23, 2017 at 10:28 AM
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    Glad you are finding the change, of benefit. In and by itself, the mod does set you up with performance improvements in the future, that will take advantage of the increased flow-characteristics of the exhaust system.

    Similar to your seat-of-the-pants observations - there is a perceptible performance improvement, where acceleration is concerned. It does take a few weeks for the truck to 'adjust' in terms of the ECU.

    Combined with my technically over-geared 4.10 final drive (tire size calls for a 3.93 final drive), the exhaust changes have made for a very snappy accelerating truck. I don't run out of significant steam for acceleration until around 130km/h .. which is around 80mph. A lot of factors involved with the performance ceiling - including increased parasitical drag on the exterior of the truck, rolling resistance of the new sport-all terrain tires, and weight of the truck overall from OEM.

    80mph on demand, is good enough for me.

    Enjoy!
     
  20. Oct 25, 2017 at 5:43 AM
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    This completely contradicts my experience, as well as everything I have read about it. Torque increases slightly, and moves the torque peak lower in the rpm range- that's why you can hold a higher gear for longer before downshifting when climbing hills.
     
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