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Self defense vs attacking dog

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by bigburrito, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. Apr 8, 2010 at 12:33 PM
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    #1 As a Full blooded Pit Bull owner, I always have to ask, Are you sure it was a pit bull? I see all the time on the news where a person was attacked by a pitt bull, and it ends up being something other than a pitt bull.

    #2 Never attempt to pet a dog unless their Owner says that the dog is friendly. A dog wagging it's tail is not a universal sign for "Come pet me"

    #3 If for instance a dog is attached to you i.e. biting your arm, best defence is grab the dog by it's throat cutting off it's air supply, or shove your thumb in between it's lower jaw stright up. If that makes any sense. In between it's lower jaw bone there is a pressure point per say, that acts much like the same manuver as holding a fish with your thumb under it's tongue. DO NOT try to pull your arm away from the dog once it's attached. This will cause more tearing and ripping of your arm and will help the dogs teeth go deeper into the tissue enabling the set up of some nasty infections, and the loss of alot of blood.

    Hope this in some way helps.
     
  3. Apr 8, 2010 at 12:45 PM
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    I'd just carry a knife man :)
     
  4. Apr 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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    i dunno, i see pepper spray being more affective. a dog like a pitt or a rott or anything like that will probably be able to put up quite a fight even after being stabbed, depending on where he's stabbed (good luck being accurate while being dragged down the street by your neck). pepper spray seems like it would be more immediately debilitating
     
  8. Apr 8, 2010 at 1:44 PM
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    relevant to this thread- I watched Batman the Dark Knight last night. at the end, when he was attacked by Jokers 3 Rottweilers, he threw the first one but the second two just started going to town on him.

    Point being if Batman can't fight off multiple dogs, im pretty sure we as regular dudes are F'd in the A. Unless you are Bob. Bob > Batman

    Are there any youtube videos of dogs getting tazed? I wonder what the effect would be. Dogs are tough as nails but they also weigh about half as much as humans. It would be good to know the effect, but not worth expirementing when your life is on the line.

    Ive started carrying my Benchmade until i come up with a better solution.
     
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  13. Apr 8, 2010 at 5:39 PM
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    Holy chit, I've done a lot already!!
    I am very sorry for your father and anyone else that has to deal with irresponsible dog owners. Yes the breed is irrellevant, they are still a dog. Bullies just tend to be more dominant and aggressive, also they're portrayed as worse than others. I just cannot see the logic in discharging a firearm in the middle of a street. I could understand if he were walking in a large park or wooded area. But in a residential area is just asking for trouble. I know a dog can f$ck you up, but lawyers can do more damage!!
     
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    no no, i think you are thinking grizzly attacks. when you are attacked by a grizzly you are suppose to hump it into submission. when a dog attacks you stand on your head to confuse it. thats what the dog whisperer says.

    actually, i remember hearing at one point that even though a dogs skull is rock solid, the snout is actually pretty fragile, which is why when you discipline a dog you are never suppose to hit him directly on the snout with anything hard. i heard it will collapse. anyone know if thats true?

    haha!
     
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    [QUOTE="OldManTan";1636119]I am very sorry for your father and anyone else that has to deal with irresponsible dog owners. Yes the breed is irrellevant, they are still a dog. Bullies just tend to be more dominant and aggressive, also they're portrayed as worse than others. I just cannot see the logic in discharging a firearm in the middle of a street. I could understand if he were walking in a large park or wooded area. But in a residential area is just asking for trouble. I know a dog can f$ck you up, but lawyers can do more damage!![/QUOTE]

    yeah i agree. my dad is a long time shooter and most likely will not do anything stupid.... but.... you never know what might happen in that situation, so yeah, guns might not be the best solution. but, he has been physically attacked once and it was on record, and been harrassed multiple times, each time he has recorded the conflict. so hopefully if things do come down to it the evidence would be pretty good in his favor. hopefully it just never comes down to that.
     
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    i know you're worried about blowback but pepper spray is still the best option. Pepper spray allows for some standoff. Its also socially acceptable to use/carry.
    If hes close enough for a knife hes close enough to bite. That said if you intend to go with a knife i have always heard to strike upwards as a dog (untrained) will go for the face/throat. Besides i imagine it would take alot of stabbing to kill a large dog. Even if it takes 30 seconds for him to bleed out that's alot of time for him to f you up.
     
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    It's funny, the only two times in my adult life, I'm almost 35, that I have had a dog run up to me on a walk with me and my family, wife, 5yo and 3yo, has been pit bulls or pit bull type. I used to walk with just dog spray, now I carry that and a nice survival knife about eight inches long, just in case the spray doesn't work or present itself to be enough, that knife is going to come out and do some work. My family is more important than some irresponsible dogs owner. Leashes will save a dog's life, more ways than one.
     
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    It is actually quite sad, as they don't deserve the rep that irresponsible owners, and might I add breeders, have allowed for them. I fully agree with your defense, hit them with the pepper spray from a distance and if they get closer use the knife.
    I never once said to fear the owners, it is their lawyers and or/others around that may be hurt by pulling a gun and spraying bullets. I just want people to put a lot of thought into their defense and would like to see them protected. We just had an innocent school teacher shot to death in a strange home. According to local media, he was drunk and entered the wrong house at 3 am. I am truly sorry to his family for their loss but he was ordered to leave and advised multiple times that the owner was armed. He continued to advance, most likely due to the alcohol, and was shot. I am sorry for that homeowner too, because he has to deal with that. But by all accounts, he used his head, issued warnings and in the end felt he had no other choice but to shoot. It is truly a sad story overall, but shows how quickly something can turn in the mere act of defending yourself. I own a Boxer dog and guns, and am by no means against firearms and bully breeds. They both deserve respect and require responsibility.
     
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