2018 Toyota Supra

vh_supra26 · Oct 25, 2017

TOYOTA PLOTTING NEXT GENERATION OF SPORTS CARS

Exec dishes on GR sub-brand, Supra, and next Toyobaru

Although the Supra sports car co-developed with BMW is no secret, Toyota this week revealed two next-generation sports cars that are likely to enter the lineup.

Although there were doubts whether Toyota and Subaru would continue their joint venture to make a second-generation 86 and BRZ, the two automakers “are already in discussion” to continue the rear-drive sporty coupe, said Shigeki Tomoyama, Toyota Motor Corp. senior managing officer.

Also raising eyebrows at the Tokyo Motor Show was Toyota’s GR HV Sports concept. Although some thought this targa-top coupe was a preview of the next 86/BRZ mashup, Tomoyama said this car was something further up the food chain, using the hybrid racing technology borrowed from the World Endurance Championship.

The WEC car, code-named TS050 in the LMP1 class, runs an engine with 45 percent thermal efficiency. Whereas Toyota used supercapacitors in previous WEC iterations, the TS050 has a motor-generator unit at each axle, with energy storage coming from cockpit-mounted, regenerative lithium-ion battery packs. When that feeds the 2.4-liter turbo V-6, total system output nears 1,000 hp.

But anyone can make horsepower. The real story, especially in endurance racing, is thermal efficiency. Most passenger cars are lucky if they reach 35 percent. But Toyota has a target of 50 percent thermal efficiency, said Tomoyama, who is president of Gazoo Racing and of Toyota’s connectivity efforts.

With a 173-inch length, 71-inch width, and 50.4-inch height, the GR HV Sports is about 7 inches longer than the Toyota 86 but about the same width and height.

Although no final decision has been made to build the car, Tomoyama said: “We would like to commercialize such kinds of sports vehicles with that kind of efficiency.”

As for the Supra, Tomoyama confirmed that Toyota wants the vehicle to have a straight-six layout and be “light and powerful.”

Tomoyama said Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda—driving under his racing alter ego “Morizo”—has been active in testing the Supra at the Nürburgring and elsewhere.

“We are focusing on rear tire traction and contact with the road,” Tomoyama said. “Cornering within smaller-diameter (tight) corners will be very important. The rear tires will need a little slip, and drivers need to know (the limit) of the slip.”

As for how much the Supra will be similar to the BMW Z4, Tomoyama said that Toyota utilized “some” parts from BMW, “but the model we are developing will be completely different. We will not disappoint.”

As a benchmark, Tomoyama has brought his personal 1997 Supra, tuned to 600 hp, into the Toyota executive parking lot. The Supra makes so much noise compared to most executives’ cars that the parking attendant tried to throw him out of the lot, determining that Tomoyama was a youthful imposter. Now, Tomoyama said: “He bows very deeply to me.”

Gazoo is now involved in tuning the Lexus “F” models, specifically the next-generation GS-F.

“We are looking at what kind of target audience the car has, what tone and manner, how much understeer and oversteer balance,”Tomoyama said. “The cars have to run faster, and that tuning is already (in place). Even within Lexus, we may have different models which have different tuning.”

As for whether Gazoo Racing will make specific inroads into the U.S. market, Tomoyama said that the brand will not interfere with the existing Toyota Racing Development group.

“TRD is a brand of parts, a customization brand. Gazoo Racing ranges from development of a car in production to sales. Of course, customization is part of Gazoo Racing. But Gazoo is going to launch a very pure sports vehicle in the future, and then you will know difference between GR and other companies.”

But for now, Gazoo is focused on the European and Japanese markets, where endurance and rally racing are more popular. In eyeing the American market, Gazoo is in early talks with folks interested in NASCAR and the IndyCar series.

But anyone lusting for a Gazoo Camry will have to wait a while, Tomoyama said: “We would rather launch a sports car with a dedicated special platform.”
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http://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-plotting-next-generation-of-sports-cars/

vh_supra26 · Oct 25, 2017

Back in August, we saw a well-camouflaged 2019 Supra prototype prancing around with a pair of production LED headlights, featuring a thin LED strip for improved daylight visibility.
automatic transmission.

Another fresh rumor suggests that the 2019 Supra won't even be badged as a Toyota, according to a report from Auto Express. In fact, it could be sold under the Gazoo Racing brand, acting as a launchpad for Toyota's high-performance Gazoo division.

"The Supra will be by Gazoo," stated Shigeki Tomoyama, the man in charge of the sub-brand, while Akio Toyoda himself insisted that the new Supra needed to be more aggressive than what was originally planned, a conclusion he arrived at after driving a pre-production model.

"The new car has to appeal to the existing owners first," said Toyoda. "The old cars had a straight-six engine, twin-turbochargers and rear-wheel drive; the new car has to have the same philosophy."

Expected to weigh between 1,200 kg and 1,500 kg (2,645-3,306 lbs), Gazoo Racing's Suprais reportedly being fine-tuned with the BMW M4 and Porsche 911 used as benchmarks.
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http://www.carscoops.com/2017/10/2019-toyota-supra-spied-with-production.html

vh_supra26 · Oct 26, 2017

Chris(NJ) · Oct 26, 2017

Photos make it look like a mashup between a 350z and a BMW z3.

vh_supra26 · Nov 1, 2017

Another slightly reworked rendering.

PROseur · Nov 1, 2017

As for the Supra, Tomoyama confirmed that Toyota wants the vehicle to have a straight-six layout and be “light and powerful.”

so whats the motor?

vh_supra26 · Nov 1, 2017

PROseur said: ↑

As for the Supra, Tomoyama confirmed that Toyota wants the vehicle to have a straight-six layout and be “light and powerful.”

so whats the motor?
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Most likely a modified B58 for BMW. Rumored to be anywhere from 385hp+.

PROseur · Nov 1, 2017

vh_supra26 said: ↑

Most likely a modified B58 for BMW. Rumored to be anywhere from 385hp+.
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So bmw making the Supra motor ?

Heard Car will be build in Austria

Jcyr · Nov 1, 2017

When will it ever actually happen damnit

vh_supra26 · Nov 1, 2017

PROseur said: ↑

So bmw making the Supra motor ?

Heard Car will be build in Austria
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Yup

Jcyr said: ↑

When will it ever actually happen damnit
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If I had to guess, 2019?

vh_supra26 · Nov 2, 2017

Looks like they are using the Cayman as a benchmark.

vh_supra26 · Nov 6, 2017

New rendering

equalme · Nov 5, 2017

Not really sure how I feel about it yet.

Jcyr · Nov 5, 2017

It’s never gonna happen.. might as well buy an 86 and twin turbo it

TashcomerTexas · Nov 5, 2017

Lmao I saw a dude from Supra forums made a trip to Japan just to see an unveiling to it never happening. That sucks.

vh_supra26 · Nov 16, 2017

Another rendering.

vh_supra26 · Nov 16, 2017

According to the forum's insider, this is the closest rendering to the real thing.

TashcomerTexas · Nov 16, 2017

I must have this car. The more I look at it.

vh_supra26 · Nov 16, 2017

Here is a up close and personal view of the Supra. Skip to 6:23

vh_supra26 · Dec 2, 2017

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