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Safari Snorkel and TRD Cold Air Intake combo???

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by PFD FIRE, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Sep 28, 2017 at 2:45 PM
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    Im going nuts trying to figure out if a Safari Snorkel will fit into a aftermarket TRD CAI, Im looking into investing in one. I called ARB technical service and he tells me that the snorkel is designed to fit the stock air intake and to make it fit onto a TRD CAI I would have to do some serious modification to make the two connect. Ive seen youtube videos with a safari snorkel and TRD CAI connected but no real information on how they connected the two or what size coupler they used.

    Anybody out there with a Safari Snorkel and TRD CAI combo that can explain how they connected the two, with pictures and explanation? Any help would be appreciated:)
     
  2. Sep 28, 2017 at 2:51 PM
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    It can be done. Mine is setup that way although I am using a snorkel from a landcruiser. Sorry pics are hard to get on mine but I had to make a custom fitting from the snorkel end to the intake. Just dont plan on it being a simple bolt on install. You will likely need some intake tubing and fittings to route it into your CAI.

    This used to be a good reference till photobucket messed up the pictures.

    http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...15-arb-safari-snorkel-cai-install-w-pics.html
     
  3. Sep 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Yeah I've seen that before it's too bad the pictures are not there. That's what I really need to see:(
     
  4. Sep 28, 2017 at 4:02 PM
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    As you can see it can be done

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  5. Sep 29, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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    Fixing that post...


    ********ARB SAFARI SNORKEL to CAI INSTALL MOD********

    I decided that I should make some type of disclaimer for this MOD. I don’t want people to think that you just buy this part buy this other part and everything then just fits together, that is very unrealistic. The reason is we are adapting non-vehicle parts to make another aftermarket part work. I know this is a given, but felt there should be some type of warning to those that want to adapt the Snorkel to the CAI.

    There is a lot of fitting that requires to modify one of the supplied pieces that the Safari Snorkel came with, the flexible connection and your CAI box needs to be modified a little too, slightly cutting a little off the intake part of the box. When trying to adapt any type of “New” system to a vehicle there is always the risk that it might not work, that’s the price you pay sometimes. This MOD can work but you cannot rush through the install, it takes a lot of time fitting and measuring and fitting some more. For those of you that proceed good luck.


    Here are the "Special Tools" you will need to install the Safari Snorkel on your rig. I left out the arbour you will need for the hole saw. Without the arbour the hole saw would "walk" around on your fender. By having the arbour will keep the hole saw in a direct path.

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    I removed my CAI box to check dimensions for the intake. The CAI box intake opening is oblong shaped. I thought this was going to be very challenging to find something that will fit over it and remain water tight.

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    So off I went to my local Hardware store exploring all the nooks and crannies for anything that would work. I was on a mission, the fate of the Snorkel / CAI group weighed heavy upon my shoulders. Alas, I may have found exactly what we may need. I made my purchase and rushed back home to disassemble my CAI again.

    I found it would stretch perfectly around the strange shape opening and would secure it tight enough for no water to penetrate. The next problem was the reduced side is still to large, it needs to be another inch smaller in diameter.

    I ran inside googled up the manufacture and went through all their fitting and low and behold the perfect one, the one that I have been searching for! Number 1002-43!

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    The I.D. is 5.25” x 3.38” I.D. awesome, so with part number in hand, I rush back down to my local hardware store, and ask if they would order one for me. They look in the book, and say, nope we can’t order that part, it’s not in our book. I say, ok, I’ll go order it online, thanks. I returned the other one.

    I return home and jump on the computer and look up the number to the manufacture, and make a call. I speak to some lady on the other end. I ask her that I would like to place an order, she asks what’s the name of my company, I say, I’m not a company. She say’s sorry, we don’t sell to the public. I say ok, can I have one of your large pluming supply companies, I will buy it online. She say’s, I don’t know of any…Now I’m getting a little frustrated, so I state, that’s fine, I thank her, hang up and googled the part number with the name of the manufacture. I find an online hardware store and find the part 1002-43 then place my credit card order.

    I received my Snorkel/CAI adapter (Fernco Part number Number 1002-43) it arrived in the mail.
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    I decided to test fit on the old breather part that I removed when I installed my CAI. It fit like a like a glove!, perfect.

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    I then test fitted the reducer on the CAI box, again, Perfect!

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    Ok, at this point the only unknown was the diameter of the existing opening through the fender curtain going to the outside fender. I removed my CAI box, measured the opening which is at 4" in diameter.

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    I then messured the outside of the reducer end, it also comes out to 4" Dia, Perfect fit!

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    I then installed the box with the reducer on it into the engine bay area, it fit like a glove. The only other item we will need will be a small 4" hard pipe, like PVC to make up a short transition piece from the reducer to the "ARB Air entry Hose" this will tie in everything perfect.

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    All the tools ready for the Surgery today

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    One last pic of the untouched passenger side fender.

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    Everything laid out ready to go.

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    I used masking tape to tape the fender up to reduce any damage to the paint. This will also help me see the marked holes from the template because of the Black vehicle color.

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    The template taped up and in position, ready for marking the hole locations.

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    I decided to go ahead and cut the large hole first and get it over with. One nice BIG hole in the fender.

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    I finished drilling out all the other holes as per instructions. After cutting the holes make sure to add some touchup paint around the exposed metal to keep it from rusting.

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    I then taped up the A-pillar for the holes that need to be drilled for the Snorkel attachment.

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    I installed the reducer fitting and a small piece of PVC to make up the transition to the Snorkel to the reducer.

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    You will need to remove your CAI completely from the engine. This will help installing the CAI box back in without trouble.

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    After alot of measuring, I found I needed to remove about a 1/2 inch from the CAI box inlet.

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    I also had to remove about another 1/2" from the reducer. This was removed from the CAI box side of the reducer. I also had to remove about 3" from the ARB rubber hose that comes off the Snorkel into the engine bay so that the mock up would fit. I would cut a little off, test fit, then cut some more off and test fit again until you have a good fit.

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    I found the best way to install is removing the reducer from the CAI box, then install the reducer FIRST on to the Snorkel, clamping it up. THEN install the CAI box to the reducer.

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    Reinstall the rest of the CAI to the engine, tighten everything up and your ready for some SCUBA Driving.

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    ARB Safari Snorkel Installed but still have to button up the inner fender liners.




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    The finished product. I drove it a round just a little bit to quick take these pics, I found that soon as I started the engine, I watched the Scanguage II. I noticed that I was getting absolute Ambient temperature to the engine. The outside temp was 60 degrees, at idle the engine was getting 60 degrees air. I gained another 5 degrees cooler temps to the engine by the Snorkel. I gained 25 degree temps by installing the CAI. It took me about an hour and a half to install the Snorkel, that was removing everything. The biggest PITA was trying to remove the inner fender clips, I removed just enough to fit my hand up inside and turn a wrench. Well I hope this helps everyone with your installation.
     
  6. Nov 12, 2017 at 2:48 AM
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    Great walk through! I put the 2nd gen safari snorkel on my 09 last night and immediately after I thought man I should be attaching this snorkel to a higher quality filter and intake. I'm hoping to get a little more of the low tone that most after market CAI give but I don't know if that is possible
     
  7. Nov 12, 2017 at 6:35 AM
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  8. Nov 23, 2017 at 5:30 PM
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    Finally got around to adding the TRD air intake in combination with the Safari Snorkel and let me tell you there was quite a bit of difference in performance between the stock intake and the TRD

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    Do you have pictures of the installation on your tacoma and did you have to used the same reducer they use on the FJ. Installation?
     
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    Did you need to go through the same modifications as the FJ in this post or was it a direct fit?
     
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    8CD9F659-853E-40F3-95DD-04B9A8555518.jpg 102133DA-438A-422B-856F-8690602AA741.jpg 91D53057-7F1F-4D6A-B229-FB3E57A66E32.jpg 1D3C56E4-9A77-47D6-A2FD-AB2FFD9E3F2E.jpg B14A10C3-14D6-45E0-9155-974243068743.jpgI ended up selling my TRD CAI and used my OEM air box in conjunction with the ARB snorkel. Much easier to do it that way then to modify things to make the snorkel fit the aftermarket TRD CIA:thumbsup:
     
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  13. May 28, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    Lol good stuff!! I had made the decision about an hour ago to return my TRD CAI as it has not even been delivered yet and stick with the stock air box. Now I’m having a bit of trouble deciding if I want to go Dobinson or ARB??? Any thoughts? I like that the ARB has history and it is made in Australia as opposed to the Dobinson made in China. That being said the Dob is a whole hell of a lot cheaper!! But returning the TRD CAI will just about cover the cost of the ARB. So idk? What do you think? And anyone else feel free to chime in please!
     
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    I thought about getting the Dobinson however ARB is a well known reputable company that makes great products. Yes it’s more expensive but your pretty much guaranteed your getting a good product. I’ve read through Tacomaworld threads that the Dobinson template was slightly off and not matching the snorkels bolt placement. I’m not sure if they’ve corrected this issue. Because of this I choose with no regrets to go with the ARB snorkel
     
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    I regret not paying the extra price for the ARB. Fitment is terrible compared to the ARB, but at least it works as it should. Took me forever to get it where I wanted it and it still doesn’t follow the body lines whatsoever.
     
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    Bummer man:( The ARB snorkel template matched the snorkel to a “T”. I’ve been a huge believer that you get what you pay for especially when doing a modification such as a snorkel install involving huge holes to side of a fender:rolleyes:
     
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