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Anyone worn out their factory 245/75-16s yet?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Steve Urquell, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Dec 17, 2017 at 9:04 AM
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    RocTaco

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    I replaced my stock hankooks @ 15k, had about 6/32” as well. I’m pretty sure they started at 10/32, could be wrong though.

    Main reason for replacement was they were garbage in the snow last winter when they were brand new, and I don’t have the funds or space for proper dedicated snows. So a set of Falkens went on and they have been far superior in pretty much every way!

    Edit: I also sold the stock hankooks in Craigslist for $120. Offset a good bit of the price for new tires.
     
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  2. Dec 17, 2017 at 9:11 AM
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    BTW and FWIW I saw a documentary on the death of Paul Walker. Apparently the Porsche he took his last ride in had tires on it that were 9 years old. A million dollar car with 9 year old tires!

    They had an expert tire guy that said that tires that old develop flat spots and the rubber becomes hard and won't grip the road. And then there's dry rot and cracking. So this all helped contribute to the accident.

    I wonder if the guys that do "drifting" seek out older tires. That's a dangerous game if so.

    The Porsche owners manual recommends replacing tires every 4 years even if the tread is still good...but that's for a high performace million dollar car.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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    My Hankooks were about half gone at 22,000 mi. Couldn’t complain. They were dead quiet and smooth in the steering wheel.
    I told someone “The first sign of trouble, I’m getting Michelins.” The very next day I got a flat driving on a dirt road. So I now have Michelin’s. I started a job where I am away most of the time, so I was going to be looking at almost wore out tires for quite a while. I wanted good tread for snows. Stayed with the steel wheels.
    Michelin’s are not as smooth as felt in the steering wheel, but don’t have that bouncy feel when hitting bumps.
     
  4. Dec 17, 2017 at 10:54 AM
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    Michelins get great ratings on tests and reviews. That'll be what I might go to after the OEM cheapies.

    Unless there's a really good cheaper alternative :thumbsup:
     
  5. Dec 17, 2017 at 11:09 AM
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    It is far from secret, insider info that OEM tires are made with lesser materials and construction than “normal” tire lines from manufacturers. That said, there is no difference between two tires that are identically spec’d with the only difference being one is for an OEM and the other isn’t.

    The specs are different, the tire is different. Regardless if it’s under the Goodyear Wrangler model designation, there will be another model designation specifying OEM production.

    Saying that two tires with identical identifying marks, brand, model, model sub designation, any all other information being the same will result in 2 separate tire constructions and material usage. That isn’t true. The specs will be different, otherwise it’s fraud. Check the specs, that tells you the construction of the tire. The OEM will be different, and the wear reflects that. They’re not identical in every way on paper, but different in actuality.

    Common knowledge OEM tires are subpar, but one is not the same as the other. They’re different tires within the same product line.
     
  6. Dec 17, 2017 at 11:34 AM
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    Usually the Big Box stores have the best prices on the Michelins and u can catch a rebate too. Another great alternative is the Michelin AT2 only slightly heavier than the Defender but a more aggressive AT look.
     
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  7. Dec 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM
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    Got about 33k miles on the factory Firestone 245/75. I put on the Goodyear Trailrunner AT in 265/70R16 size and really like them. I hope they last a lot more than 33k miles...
     
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    You should get double the mileage or so buying the aftermarket one's. Just stay away from the exact OEM stock that came on your car.

    Most tires I've bought over the years have been rated/warranteed at 60,000 + miles.

    Some Michelin's are currently warranted for 100,000 miles. I'd be afraid that the rubber would break down before then. Just don't put wheel dressing on because I've heard this could affect some warrantee's. Then again companies could use any old excuse to get out of a warrantee.
     
  9. Dec 17, 2017 at 12:04 PM
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    The only time I was tempted to buy Consumer Reports...I still have this issue laying around so I'll dig it out:

    https://www.consumerreports.org/tires/top-pick-tires-for-2016/

    It's where I learned about Micheline's 100,000 mile tire. They did a really good job actually testing these tires for ride quality and wear.
     
  10. Dec 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM
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    That's wild they were only half gone at 22k. I doubt mine will go 20k. Part of my issue is 3miles of rocky dirt road daily which carves chunks out of the tread.
    Michelin Defenders are the only tire I've worn completely out before cutting up beyond repair.
     
  11. Dec 17, 2017 at 2:31 PM
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    UPDATE: I was wrong on the new tread depth. It's actually 10/32 as just checked on my Hankook spare. Also checked the Toyos in the garage and they also have 10/32.

    I was assuming 13/32 as that is what all the Hankooks have that I found on the web. Looks like Toyota saves money on them by buying tires with less rubber/tread.
     
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    Poor people and those flipping a car where a 7/32nd tire looks better than a misalignment worn 4/32nd
     
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    I’m running Michelin Ltx ms2 and after 30k and regular rotations they look that they’re going to last at least 30k more..and they perform really good on pavement..
     
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    I'm pretty sure all car manufacturer's go that route.

    It would suck to have to change out tires every 20k-30k miles all the time.
     
  15. Jan 29, 2018 at 12:41 PM
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    Stock Bridgestones that came on my 2010 doublecab TRD 2WD were at 52,000 miles when I sold it in 2016. Nobody complained about the tread on the tires and the truck sold quickly.

    On my less-than-2-years-old 3rd gen sr5 4wd, the stock Toyos are tore up and the guy at the shop said my alignment is off.

    Alignment will kill your tires faster than not rotating them.

    Anywhoo, I was impressed by the service I got from the Bridgestones. (dueller HT I think)

    The guy at Big O Tires is pushing Mesa branded tires. Reviews on these are all over the place.
     
  16. Jan 29, 2018 at 1:42 PM
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    im trying, but the Doneflops aren't wearing fast enough
     
  17. Jan 29, 2018 at 2:37 PM
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    My Toyos have 25,000 almost, figure they will make it to 30,000. Friend thought they would only last to 20,000. If snow gets deep, will have to put my dealer pull offs on that I got a year ago or so.
    Duane
     
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    Thanks. Looks like the Toyos I have in the garage will last about as long as the stock Hankooks. I hope to get >20,000 out of the Hankooks but I doubt it. My 3mi per day rocky dirt road plays hell on them.
    Shortly after posting this thread I went out and had a flat, figured I had a rock cut. Luckily it was only a nail and I plugged it. Had it been a good tire I would have had it patched but not worth the effort on these cheapos.
     
  19. Jan 29, 2018 at 3:29 PM
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    Disregard my post, I have 17's.
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    Had these tires come with my SR. They are 10.5/32nd thread depth new and not 13/32nds. Sold them at about 2K to 2.5K usage and they were still at 10.5/32nd. They were ok for a highway tire. Light (36lbs), smooth, and quiet.
     

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