1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Washboard Roads

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Taco TRQ, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Jan 18, 2018 at 4:59 PM
    #21
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    And hey, you're local! Might be in touch with you. Nice video. Liked/subscribed/followed.



     
  2. Jan 18, 2018 at 5:25 PM
    #22
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    Good info and good points. Load along with longevity and heat as Ryan pointed out in his video are all fine points as well.

     
  3. Jan 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM
    #23
    abqnurse80

    abqnurse80 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Member:
    #214544
    Messages:
    987
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nic
    ABQ, NM
    Vehicle:
    2012 FJ Cruiser
    Bilstein 5100 all around, first clip front. AVS window visors, BFG AT KO2s. JBL.
    What load range are your tires?
     
  4. Jan 19, 2018 at 11:57 AM
    #24
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    Unfortunately C, but hey, they were included with the truck so I can't complain. I realize C's are supposed to be more comfortable.

     
  5. Jan 19, 2018 at 12:10 PM
    #25
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    The cheapskate side of me wants to try the 2.0's since the truck is stock weight on the front (no bumper, winch, just the oem skid, and a fairly thing trans skid, though I do have sliders). All the weight is in the bed. Not sure how much of a bearing that might have on the front suspension.




     
  6. Jan 19, 2018 at 12:22 PM
    #26
    su.b.rat

    su.b.rat broken truck

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2016
    Member:
    #193316
    Messages:
    9,874
    the thing i love about the 2.0's for me is they match the truck... or so 'yota has said. the TRD Pro kit was tuned for the OE truck. i can tell. the match is perfect.

    but if i was doing anything at all in the future that was heading out of stock territory regarding weight, i'd go for the 2.5's and hope to be able to tune them about as good as the 2.0's. so, if i was in your shoes i'd go for the 2.5's personally.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2018 at 12:29 PM
    #27
    Lost In The Woods

    Lost In The Woods 4 out of the 5 voices in my head say go for it!

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Member:
    #191800
    Messages:
    1,394
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Buckley, WA
    Vehicle:
    21 Gladiator Rubicon Diesel
    An unusually high amount of pinstriping.
    Do your self a favor and spend the money if your constantly on those types of roads. With my job, I spend quality time on washboard, pothole, rutted up logging roads (210 miles this week). For years I would throw your basic "off road shock" on and call it good. This time I went with King's 2.5 that have been valved to where and how I drive. It took me the better part of four months to talk my self into them, but it was definitely worth it. That being said if I was mostly on pavement with the occasional weekend worrier run then I can't really recommend the King's due to cost This is just my opinion and I sure others would disagree.

    Just for reference my speeds are under 40 mph. Speed limit on most tree farms is 30 or 35 and I've been stopped for 2 over. I also don't air down unless the roads are really, really bad. I'm not going to stop every day to air down and air back up.
     
    WPNZ and Tacomamike mike like this.
  8. Jan 19, 2018 at 12:31 PM
    #28
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    Not having to mess with tire pressure would almost be worth it in itself, what a pain in the ass.

     
  9. Jan 19, 2018 at 1:13 PM
    #29
    Lost In The Woods

    Lost In The Woods 4 out of the 5 voices in my head say go for it!

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Member:
    #191800
    Messages:
    1,394
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Buckley, WA
    Vehicle:
    21 Gladiator Rubicon Diesel
    An unusually high amount of pinstriping.
    Yeah, the last thing I want to do is stop on my way home and spend ten minutes putting air in my tiers. Also I didn't get the compression adjusters. Kind of the same thing with airing down. I'm not going to stop every day to mess with them.
     
  10. Jan 19, 2018 at 2:26 PM
    #30
    Schmidt

    Schmidt Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2015
    Member:
    #148463
    Messages:
    34
    Gender:
    Male
    Surrey, B.C.
    Vehicle:
    06 TRD Sport
    Fox mid travel setup
    I had the same problem you had OP. I was running 5100s all around ran it for 6 months and wasn't happy with the ride quality off-road I found it stiff and not forgiving. So I went to a 2.5 fox setup with remote reservoirs for the front and fox 2.0 with remote reservoirs for the back. First thing I found was ride more compliant off-road and not worrying about washboard or really anything. Also don't do air bags if your worried about ride quality I would look at a set of Timbern bumpstops or something of that nature.
     
  11. Jan 19, 2018 at 2:54 PM
    #31
    MattCowsmasher

    MattCowsmasher ( -_・)ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ່࡚ࠢ࠘⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2017
    Member:
    #215629
    Messages:
    48,694
    Gender:
    Male
    Temple, Tx
    Vehicle:
    O3 Rubicon wrangler
    Frankenstein lift, warn winch, heavy rear bumper swing out
    Lots of info here...remove swaybar an report back. Helped me out a lot an I have coilvers made a YUGE difference on washboard stuff.
     
    BlueFalconActual likes this.
  12. Jan 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM
    #32
    *TRD*

    *TRD* Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2016
    Member:
    #174188
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Carson, Ca
    This is good advice, except the timbren part. Timbrens are horrible, they don't let the suspension compress. People use them as a bandaid for bad shock tuning.
     
  13. Jan 19, 2018 at 3:04 PM
    #33
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    What do you like for rear springs? I hear the AAL's are kind of a shitty solution. I also hear the factory springs loaded past a couple of hundred pounds are somewhat of a weak spot off road.


     
  14. Jan 19, 2018 at 3:09 PM
    #34
    MattCowsmasher

    MattCowsmasher ( -_・)ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ່࡚ࠢ࠘⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2017
    Member:
    #215629
    Messages:
    48,694
    Gender:
    Male
    Temple, Tx
    Vehicle:
    O3 Rubicon wrangler
    Frankenstein lift, warn winch, heavy rear bumper swing out
    Popular choices are dakar or all pro, I run icon 3 leaf aal works fine for my setup but any real weight an it’ll sag.
     
  15. Jan 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
    #35
    monkeyface

    monkeyface Douchebag, or just douche if we're friends

    Joined:
    May 13, 2012
    Member:
    #78740
    Messages:
    3,134
    Gender:
    Male
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    '90,'97,'12,'05 Tundra 4.7,'07 T4R 4.7,'08 T4R 4.7
    People go through five different suspensions, five different trucks, and still keep searching. Good luck if you can find one to stay with.
     
    WPNZ likes this.
  16. Jan 19, 2018 at 3:51 PM
    #36
    steelhd

    steelhd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2013
    Member:
    #118650
    Messages:
    3,401
    Gender:
    Male
    Eastern WA
    Vehicle:
    2011 DCSB TRD OR
    I've got a great suspension under my Jeep but airing down is still the key. Washboards on the way to trailheads really suck but coming back to the pavement, while aired down, is night and day better. The difference is also very noticeable with my load range C Duratracs and stock OR suspension on long washboard stretches. 30 lbs beats the truck to death but going down to 12 lbs makes a world of difference. A good portable compressor that fills tires quickly will cost less than $300. High zoot Fox, King, and Icon setups will cost many multiples of that $300.
     
  17. Jan 19, 2018 at 4:23 PM
    #37
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    In my original post, I've tried going down as low as 15psi. I was just commenting it's a pain in the ass, I still do it, just bitching about it.



     
  18. Jan 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM
    #38
    skiwaves8

    skiwaves8 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Member:
    #105451
    Messages:
    159
    Gender:
    Male
    Pagosa Springs Colorado
    Vehicle:
    TRD
    King is a better shock then the fox, you get what you pay for and the build quality for the King is also better than the fox.
     
  19. Jan 22, 2018 at 10:17 AM
    #39
    Schmidt

    Schmidt Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2015
    Member:
    #148463
    Messages:
    34
    Gender:
    Male
    Surrey, B.C.
    Vehicle:
    06 TRD Sport
    Fox mid travel setup
    Just doesn't sound like he is interested in changing leaf packs for load handling.
     
  20. Jan 22, 2018 at 11:49 AM
    #40
    Taco TRQ

    Taco TRQ [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Member:
    #223268
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    TuRDTaco
    That's what I've heard for years, but reading *TRD*/AccuTune's article's on the disassembly and comparison of both, I'm beginning to think the opposite is the case....

    http://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/fox-vs-king-2-0-coilover-shock-comparison/


     
    redtaco2007, WPNZ and *TRD* like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top