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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Chris Miles, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. Mar 29, 2018 at 2:34 PM
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    Not sure if you are aware OP, but super chargers like to breath and have air with speed. Crawling with an s/c can lead to hot engine fun that I do NOT recommend in the summer time if you arnt cruising with some speed. Which is partly why you don’t see many dedicated crawlers have s/c’s as they don’t want to overheat on a trail if they are in a slow convoy.

    Guys out west tend to like them cause they are generally cruising around at a good pace whether on road or not.
     
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  2. Mar 29, 2018 at 2:37 PM
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    My truck is also my daily commuter.

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    I got the OVTune installed and not only did it make my commute WAY better as far as driving experience and MPG's (avg. 16-20 in morning commute, overall 17MPGish for the week usually). When offroading the throttle is SO much more better and controllable. The truck feels 800lbs lighter with the tune. Just a thought instead of spending $$$ on re-gearing.

    Also, why 285's? Do some research on why 255/85 may be better for you
     
  3. Mar 29, 2018 at 2:38 PM
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    I am. I bought the snow progressive kit. It's not for everyone of course. But ambient temperature no longer matters which is great for crawling. This is beyond the scope of OP's thread though.
     
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  4. Mar 29, 2018 at 2:55 PM
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    Thanks for the notes & suggestion.
    I haven't made up my mind about what size tire I want to go with, I just threw out 33 as an example. I hear quite a few people complain that bigger tires slow the truck down quite a bit.
     
  5. Mar 29, 2018 at 2:56 PM
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    This is helpful info, thanks!
     
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    Depends mostly on what transmission / rearend you have and how heavy the tires are. A heavier duty 33 can bog down a truck. Drivers with a manual trans with a lower geared rear end usually don't experience the same levels of lag you'd get with an auto with a higher geared rear end.

    Whoever was saying 4.88's with stock tires - that would work until you decide to hit the freeway. 4.56 is plenty for 31's and that's with a moderate load.
     
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    Yea man I agree, he’ll im running Thirty fives with 4.56’s but my first gen was a gas hog on 4.88s. I would stay at 4.56’s max. I did t regear till I went with dirties either, but if you like speed then you might want to regear if you jump to 33s.
     
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    Width of tire can suck alot of power. I might go to 255's for commuting, but many guys on here that do serious off-roading/trail-riding have commented that they work fine. I have heard that slimmer tires work better in icy conditions as well
     
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    255's are really popular for off-roading and snow.
     
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    Please don't spread such misinformation. Other than making little to no sense, that statement is incredibly wrong.

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    For the record, S/C has it's place, and may be a reasonable option for some folks, depending on their needs/wants, but I don't think it's a good option for OP, based on what he has shared so far.
     
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    So you're saying it's easier to tune a 98 ecu than a 2018? That's not what @OVTune has to say... in fact he can't tune a 98 and hence I'm stuck w/ having to use a piggy back.
     
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    The only thing I am saying is that you have no idea what programming is, or what it takes to "tune" a modern vehicle.
     
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    o_O
     
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    Another problem with superchargers that some people don’t seem to realize, is the engine internals need to handle the gross power output.

    Let’s say your hypothetical s/c for the 3.5 nets you a 100hp gain for 376hp. In reality, it’ll add say 175hp but 75 of that is needed to run the s/c. So your engine actually needs to be set up to handle 451hp.
     
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    I guess you guys should start writing letters to Magnuson and TRD and let them know all this stuff...
     
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  16. Mar 30, 2018 at 8:54 AM
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    Thanks. I've read about this, but haven't seen the associated numbers. Is +175HP with 75 of that going back to SC realistic? I was under the impression that the SC would use 10% to 25% max.
     
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    Man, a lot of supercharged myths on here lol. Guy from out west here, runs a supercharger, and doesn’t overheat any worse than I did before installing it. Honestly, mud or dust on the radiator is a way bigger issue than the supercharger itself. Oh and I’m rarely at high speed except on my way to the trail. Hard to get colder air than a snorkel can grab and anyone who knows anything about fluid dynamics knows out trucks travel too slow in order to take advantage of any ram air effects. Truck runs fine other than a rich cold mixture that loves to blow a bit of smoke when started in extreme cold.

    Regear first. Get the power you have available to the wheels at lower RPMs. If you’re not happy with that, then look at other engine modifications which may or may not include a supercharger depending on what is available for the 3rd gen at that time. Even retuning the 3rd gen shift points and fuel map seems to help a lot which is easier to do than adding FI. Whatever you do don’t listen to the thousands of random voices on Tacomaworld when it comes to supercharging. Look for people that already have the setup you are considering and ask them. They actually know what you are trying to find out. Of course, until a kit is available to Supercharge the 2GR on a Tacoma that information is nothing but hot air.
     
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