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Door rattles after speaker upgrade.

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Cerveza1980, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Jul 2, 2018 at 8:26 AM
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    Cerveza1980

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    After doing the speaker upgrade in my 2018 DCLB I noticed a bit of rattle in my doors. I dealt with it for a couple weeks while I prepared to install sound deadening. This weekend I installed the Noico material and started to test. I even played music during install to find where it rattles so I can try to cover it with the deadening material. I found that my drivers side isnt nearly as bad anymore but my passenger side is WAY worse.

    I understand cars rattle but I want to try an soften it some. Has anyone out there found specifics spots in the door that rattle the most? I want o try and hit each spot this weekend and would like some crowd help in identifying the biggest spots to cover.

    Thanks all!
     
  2. Jul 2, 2018 at 2:03 PM
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    Following, I get the same thing in my 2017 with the JBL upgrade, would love to find a solution!
     
  3. Jul 2, 2018 at 6:01 PM
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    Noise comes from lots of places. Doors are among the most difficult to tackle. Not impossible though.

    If you applied adequate damper and that still didn't work, that isn't surprising. Damper helps with resonant panels, but you still need to decouple. Putting a closed cell foam like neoprene between the door card and inner door skin will probably help a lot as that's probably where most of the rattling originates. Beyond that, secure all your door clips with either EBR or some cloth Tesa tape. And anything else that can move around or rub against something else.

    Here's how I use EBR (can also use some butyl off a sheet of damper)...stretch it as thin as possible - just before it breaks then wrap it around the clip a couple times.

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    How much of the door did you cover?
     
  5. Jul 2, 2018 at 6:19 PM
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    Roadkill Fast rings will take care of it. You can just use foam if you want, but it makes it way easier. I used it instead of sound deadening and feel the bass was really increased.
     
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    My 2017 rattles a bit on the passenger door depending on the music/volume. Had a Scion tC that did the same thing on the same door. Took both to the dealership and they said there was nothing they could do because nothing was broken.
     
  7. Jul 3, 2018 at 1:20 PM
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    Where do you use these?

    I will try taping off the clips. But I am afraid that it may be the track that the window slides down that is actually the biggest culpret.
     
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    Most of it.
     
  9. Jul 3, 2018 at 1:23 PM
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    They're 3 pieces. Between the door and magnet. Between the bracket and speaker, and between the speaker and door skin. You'll get no noise. It'll also direct the sound in to the cab.
     
  10. Jul 3, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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    I just looked them up. That might help. Ill try it.
     
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    I had trouble with the window/lock switch panel vibrating in my 2nd gen. I popped the switch panel out and wrapped the tabs in electric tape. That fixed it for me
     
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    FWIW Stinger fast rings are made of open cell foam (bad choice for cars & trucks). So not only are they not stopping anything from traveling through them, they can attract mold spores. All they do is perhaps decouple a small part of the door card from the inner skin. That's another way of saying they do pretty much nothing. The idea behind the pieces is that they are supposed to stop sound from traveling into the cavity between the door card and inner skin from the speaker driver. The problem is the open cell foam. Sound waves travel right through open cell foam. You want some sort of closed-cell foam for this - like rubber gasket or rolled neoprene, etc.

    Stinger also claims it absorbs backwaves from drivers. That may hold some water due to the thickness of the medium, but this isn't the best material for that objective either.

    I'm calling snake oil.
     
  13. Jul 4, 2018 at 6:52 AM
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    I looked everywhere for people claiming of mold. Couldn't find anything. I guess it's possible, but given all the reviews and no mention, I'll take my chances.

    In the premium audio thread, I made a claim that the bass was drastically improved after the install (because for me it was night and day different), another member callled me out mentioned it was minimal if anything. The only difference between his and my setup were the fast rings.

    As far as rattling, it'll definitely solve that. There's really no argument there.
     

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