Tacomas don't have struts

Ya... that's kind of how I felt when I read your original post.

Seriously... this board has a moderator posting stickys, basically calling people dumbasses and telling them to "get educated"? Really? Is that the standard?

So a new guy, that say for instance has his first truck... comes to the suspension section looking for info. He finds the post made by the raving lunatic cursing and swearing about how Tacomas "don't have struts"... and then he goes to damn near any vendor and finds that they have struts listed for his Tacoma... what has been accomplished? You got to rant about schemantics and feel smart... so YOU can "strut" around the board like you think you know more than everyone else... that's it.

Potato
Po-tA-to

Tomato
Ta-mA-to

Less filling
Tastes great

What the fuck ever.

 

*semantics

 

Great... is that kind of like having a coil go over the spring?

Funny... I've gotten cute memes and spelling corrections, but there hasn't been a coherent reply explaining how it's good form to have a moderator posting a sticky that calls half the board a dumbass and tells them to "go forth and be educated."

I haven't seen a legitimate arguement to theory of all struts being based on Macpherson's design. Even though struts pre-date Macpherson by 20 years.

But... I digress... I had low expectations from the start, when I read the original post and responded to it.

 

I don't believe @jberry813 was a mod at the time of this sticky. Regardless, so?

Your response was a statement that it is advertise as such. Then the jab of he shouldn't be mad.

 

Magazines are for the toilet. Clips are for biking.

 

Huh?

If you're implying I'm mad (not sure if you are, I don't speak Ukrainian)... I'm not.

I just do not see how ANY of this entire thread serves any purpose. Much of the original post is misinformed... it's full of deragatory attitude... It seems to be a soap box for the OP to show off his infinate wisdom... and it only serves to further confuse many people who may be very new to this, and are looking for parts for their truck.

Now you guys can post all the funny memes, correct spelling errors, or do what ever cute stuff you want. It still doesn't change the fact that people will continue to call them STRUTS... especially when every time they do a search for the part at a reputible dealer and the part comes up listed as a STRUT.

Is "strut" the 100% accurate description of the part? Maybe, maybe not... it depends on if you are in the "Tastes great" camp or in the "Less filling" camp. But when it's all said and done, I'm just pointing out there is no need for an 8 paragraph rant on the subject so someone can feel smart.

That's it... and oh, btw... I will continue to call them struts.

 

Both are shocks, we just use the word "strut" to imply it's a coil over as it is 1 syllable. Widely accepted slang, no one in a dealership/shop will call you on it.

If you get confused or angry when people use the word strut on a Tacoma then you need to work on your people skills.

Whats next? sticky a thread about what makes a hub cap vs a wheel cover? Who cares?

 

SEE... some people get it! ^^^ This guy gets it!

 

Well I think we can agree that a hubcap is generally smaller than a wheel cover, usually hubcaps to do extend past the outer edges of the lug nuts.

Pretty simple really, I don't think it deserves it's own thread, but as more people chime in we will see.

 

Lol "Raving lunatic"

 

Seems a little plagiarized from the first article the shows up when you google "strut verse shocks"



At least it's informative

 

"A strut is a structural component commonly found in engineering, aeronautics, architecture and anatomy. Struts generally work by resisting longitudinal compression, but they may also serve in tension."
https://motordynasty.com/2021/02/13/strut-and-suspension-relation-types-and-more/

MacPherson Struts are struts.

Coilover assemblies are struts.

Tacomas have struts.

My point: This should not be a sticky IMHO.

 

Yeah I just never could comprehend the whole "SWAG" thing. But I'm old

 

I understand the differences between a MacPherson suspension setup and a coilover suspension setup. A strut, however, is a basic structural component used in both. I'm not saying Tacomas have MacPherson struts. I am simply saying that coilover suspension setups also utilize struts. The coilover assembly, which I think we can agree consists of a coil spring surrounding a shock absorber, is a strut designed to resist compression along its length. My point is that both suspension types utilize struts. Therefore, the title of this thread, "Tacomas don't have struts", is not accurate.

A coilover assembly is 100% a strut, as is a MacPherson strut. A sticky that says "Tacomas don't have struts" is simply not accurate and stood out to me during my research for my next project. In my opinion, it shouldn't be one of the first things you see in the suspension section on a site that so many people refer to for information about our trucks. A more accurate title would be "Tacomas don't have MacPherson struts". This thread absolutely contains good info. But its intent seems to be to demystify some commonly misunderstood terminology. It at least should be revised.

I have used and referred to TW for a long time and my only aim here is to better the site; not trying to stir anything up. Thanks for the chat with staff suggestion. I'll use that in the future; didn't realize that was a thing.

 

Agreed. Tacomas have struts in several places, including the coilover suspension. The thread's intent seems to be to reduce the confusion between MacPherson and Coilover setups. Would you not agree that the meaning of the word "strut" is important? Semantics, by definition, concerns the meanings of words. The original post says struts and coilovers are "two very different things", when a coilover is in fact a type of strut. That's like saying a wrench and a tool are two different things.

If someone with a Tacoma comes to me and says they're replacing their struts, I know what they're most likely referring to. Yes, they could also be referring to struts supporting the hood, or the supports on the tailgate. The fact remains though, if I told them their Tacoma doesn't have struts, I would be wrong.

Agree to disagree I suppose.