Bungie's Destiny

I did something wrong.

D1 winner. D2 total loser.

 

You missed the point. Year one D2 everyone was a winner and everyone got a trophy

Downfall of Destiny and it never recovered with the exception of Forsaken

 

I’m sure you guys have already learned this (I just barely unlocked it) but blade barrage is hilarious in gambit. I’ve wiped out entire teams before they even see me.

 

Haha. Yep. I don’t even waste my time invading before the primeval. Well occasionally. My favorite is to drop in when they have it it about half gone then fully heal it from kills.

That tether is funny as well. Nice work.

 

Have you not started RDR2? If not say goodbye to any spare time you have.

 

Eh, I don't mind Gambit for a couple of matches, but it gets boring and repetitive after that. Kind of like Blind Wells, getting enough done for the bounties is more than enough time spent doing the same dang thing over and over again.

I actually enjoy going through the story missions and adventures for variety. Just wish they had some dang bounties for that.

 

That's a balancing act with using a super on the other team when the Primeval is up. Ideally you want to save your super for "your" side not the other. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't. When we play Gambit, if I'm the one doing the invading, I'll only run Golden Gun. It makes it so much easier to get a team wipe. Tether IMO is probably one of the worst options in Gambit for invading as you can rarely catch an entire team close enough together to get everyone tethered. It is great for creating orbs for your side though. When we play we don't use tether at all because it's all about burning the Primeval down as fast as possible. Our team almost always consists of 2 Hunters running Blade Barrage (unless I'm invading), 1 WL playing Chaos Reach, and 1 Titan using Melting Point. Once you hit Primeval x'3 you can melt him in less than 3 secs.

I was speaking more about running the Raids or Trials. If I go flawless in Trials for instance, there is absolutely no reason you (or anyone in the clan) should get a Trials weapon for my work. No one has to devote 50 hours a week to go in and play Trials. You just have to have map knowledge and good team communication (and a little luck). And the same goes vice versa... If someone in the clan went flawless and I didn't play then I shouldn't have had access to a Trials weapon because I chose not to play that week and someone in the clan did and went flawless. Same thing with the Raid. The Leviathan wasn't a very hard raid to begin with so you, once again, didn't have to devote 50 hours to the game to finish it. You just had to be a certain level and know the mechanics of the raid to complete it. But those that chose not to run the Raid that week should have never had an opportunity to gain access to a Raid weapon without ever stepping foot into the Raid.

That Casual attitude damn near killed off D2 during year one. I'll even take it one step further and say that I will always be of the opinion that if you don't ever step foot into the endgame activities of the game you should never be able to reach max rank. If max rank is 650 you should never be able to go above 645 unless you run the endgame whether that be the Raid for PvE, Gambit for PvE / PvP, or Trials for PvP. Those should be your only options for reaching max rank.
That is the way it was in year one D1 when I was stuck at 29 1/2. You couldn't get to 30 unless you ran VoG. 30 was my incentive so that's what I did. Started a new clan and did it. With games like this there is satisfaction that comes with knowing you've done something that 95% of other players haven't and you should be rewarded for it. Destiny isn't (and never should have been) one of those games where everyone gets a participation trophy. That just makes it "Upwards Destiny". It's like playing a team sport where every game ends in a tie just because you played. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Destiny isn't Hello Kitty Online.

There is nothing wrong with playing the game the way you play. You have a pinnacle weapon that you can chase with strikes. Hell... that was the first weapon that I got when they came out with pinnacle weapons for each type of play because it was fast and easy to get and it's actually a good Fusion Rifle. But if you decide to not go into Crucible or Gambit that is your decision but... I'm sorry... you will never have access to those pinnacle weapons and that's the way it should (and will) be. There will never be another option to get those weapons if you chose not to run those quests. That said... there is nothing wrong with that if you choose not to do those activities if you don't like doing them. But, if someone has those weapons then you know what they had to go through to get them. Same thing with the Redrix, Luna's Howl, and The Not Forgotten... If you have one, or all of those weapons, then you know what that person had to go through to get them and I respect them for going through the entire quest to get them (especially The Not Forgotten). I've got the Redrix and I had to work hard to get it. But I'm not upset if I don't get the Luna's Howl. If it happens it happens. But I shouldn't just be given that weapon because I punched 5000 PvE enemies in the face when the actual quest line is much harder. Once again... that to me is "Upwards Destiny".

If you want a 4 man wipe and you are invading I'd suggest using Golden Gun instead of Blade Barrage. Since I can't get my hands on a Goddamn Queenbreaker I had been using the Crooked Fang (which actually shoots faster but requires you to actually aim the weapon) when I was playing.

Same thing once again. The bounties change each day. Some days are focused on running Crucible, Gambit, or PvE activities. Just pick up the PvE bounties each day (assuming they are up that day) and run them. The way it works is there are more than enough PvE bounties each week that you can complete your 5K limit and still pick up enough PvE bounties to immediately turn in for the following week for your 5K limit right at reset.

If we are playing I invade at 25, 50, and 75. If you see that the other team is holding a bunch of motes and you aren't invading?!?!?... you're doing it wrong my friend. The goal is to keep them from depositing their motes and vice versa. The problem with running like you say you are running is, if the other team knows what they are doing, you won't even have time to invade once they start going to town on their Primeval. Teams that know what they are doing will melt him in 3 secs or less. Now... if you are behind and they have their Primeval pulled before you then you might as well go over and invade just to buy your team more time. You won't heal their Primeval since it won't have a stack on it yet but you will delay them from getting that stack. But if they know what they are doing then they will do the exact same thing we do. As soon as our Primeval comes up we already know we are going to get invaded. So we just spread out and kill the invader. Get the stack to x'2 or x'3 and then melt him in 3 secs.

Once again... If you want a team wipe then switch to Golden Gun. Wait until they have their Primeval up... Snipe a couple if you can then pop Golden Gun and kill the others. What you have to remember in Gambit when you are invading is you have an overshield that the other team doesn't have. You also know where the other players are and until they see you they don't know where you are. But once they do see you... you better go to town quickly. That's where Golden Gun shines since you already have an overshield going in and once you pop your super you're even harder to kill.
One other way to get your quest done is have someone else do the invading for you. They just have to get a team wipe 4 times (instead of 1 if you do it) while you are playing with them. It doesn't have to be 4 wipes in the same match. It can be over many matches. If you ever need team wipes let me know I'll log in and get them for you. That's all I do in Gambit is invade and feed kills for the team.

Of course since Destiny sucks so bad right now with this new expansion you'll just have to send me a PSN request if you want help with that quest step. I've gotten a bunch of our clan members that gun by doing just that. I don't mind helping people in the game but my time of playing is pretty much over since there is nothing to do except throw balls at a fucking forge.

 

I agree that Cathedral is by far the easiest to get your invasion kills on. Especially if they have just popped their Primeval. The Queenbreaker is so fucking forgiving that the hitbox is so large that if you shoot them in the toe it's a fucking headshot lol. Try using a Crooked Fang if you want a challenge

 

Team wipes are easiest to get once the other team pops their Primeval (if you need that step). Especially if you are playing a group of randoms. Most teams are completely stupid and all stay close together when their Primeval is up. It's best to spread your team around the map so you can kill the invader since they can only spawn in three different areas of the map and you already know they are coming over if you pop your Primeval. You can hear them come in because they have a distinct "sizzling" sound around them when they invade so you can kill them quickly because they won't be expecting someone to be standing in the spawn.

 

Gambit is fun but I agree... it can get old after a while. I am glad that they put it in the game because I "personally" think it's one of the better additions to the game that they have ever added only because it allows for the use of many different strats. My only real issue is the rewards for running Gambit just aren't that great. The only good thing that you can get out of Gambit in all honesty is a good roll on a Trust Hand Cannon since it is a top tier weapon in Crucible and is great to use while going for Luna's Howl. I've got a God Roll Bad Omens RL but RL's suck now since the reintroduction of Machine Guns. The Malfeasance is a long quest for a shitt weapon that I would never take up an exotic slot for "personally". But... I can say that I've got one so there's that I suppose?

 

Level advantage isn't as much as you think it is in Gambit. Same goes for IB. Yes level advantages are enabled in both game modes but in reality they honestly don't make that much difference. So the last IB was capped at 600. If you went against someone that was 550 you only have a slight advantage over them. I forget the actual number but it's only a very small % per 15 levels. So not as much as you really think. And if they play well... they can still outplay you very easily. Same goes for Gambit. It doesn't matter the level... If you actually get a headshot with the Queenbreaker then it will count as a kill unless you are completely underleveled or they are completely overleveled.

 

I suppose what I'm saying is... If you're using the Queenbreaker, it doesn't even matter which scope you us on it as long as it's a headshot. Any linear fusion rifle will one shot kill to the head unless that person is way over your personal level.

 

Wasn't a headshot or he was 650 or there about. That's about the only reason that would happen this side of lag.

 

It's not that I'm not having fun with the game because I have a lot of time to play the game. It's because of the roadmap they have laid out for us for the following year. Other than the new raid lair which isn't really a raid lair at all when people are finishing it in 14 mins now and it is bugged at the end and they will not be able to fix it... There isn't anything to do in the game for anyone that plays endgame content this season. To level up we have to go back and play content we've played over and over and over which is fucking stupid.

Forsaken was a damn near perfect expansion. Jesus Christ there were so many ways they could have gone with The Dreaming City but they just completely fucking dropped it and now we get to throw balls at four different forges and get access to shit weapons. And when I say shit weapons... I mean shit weapons. So far I've got a god roll sniper, god roll hand cannon, and a god roll machine gun but none of them do anything special over any other weapon that would differentiate themselves from any other weapon that could just randomly drop in game. In January we get The Last Word quest. Big fucking deal More weapons coming back that they took away from us during the start of D2. I suppose eventually we'll get the GH back when they run out of ideas for any new content.

Next expansion in February... no new raid at all just a few new weapons and gameplay that revolves more or less around Gambit. June... another raid lair. Judging from all the other raid lair's that have come before... I hold out little hope that it will be good. So that's fucking it. That's all we get in the next year. So it doesn't matter how much or little I play... there isn't anything for me to do at the moment or the foreseeable future.

I'll stand by my statement from before. I personally think this is the last year for Destiny. I personally think that Activision will pull the plug on Destiny before a D3 can ever come out since Bungie can not keep the game in a stable state.

 

That's the thing though... Even if I didn't have all the time in the world to play it wouldn't take me long to burn through the content. If I only played for a few hours a week? Then yeah... But the issue with that is Bungie specifically said they wanted this game to return to the hobby it used to be. The issue with that is... they didn't come up with any meaningful content to achieve that goal. They cheaped out with these very small content releases that the vast majority of players who only play moderately could finish within a month and that's stretching it... I could finish it within a week if it weren't timegated but I'm the exception to the rule and I understand that.

We had The Forsaken where there was just an ungodly amount of content to play but they didn't expand upon that. Once you do finally get to the forges... be prepared to be unimpressed.

 

Exactly. And for players like you that may work out just fine. And I realize it's a balancing act that Bungie has to work with.

But here's the issue... They have purposefully made the game more hard core which is exactly what I personally wanted but didn't give us anything new to do get to that hard core content. They made it to where we have to level up by doing the same shit that we have been doing the last few months before we could do the new content. Then once we get to that new content it sucks complete ass and the only time it's remotely hard is when you do it underleveled. Once you hit the level requirement it's fucking simple and boring. That... makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

They took Trials out completely for who knows how long when the community has spoken about what they want in Trials. 3v3 Elimination. That's it. It would literally take them a week to code that back in. Then... you add timegating things like the forges (or worse, the Thunderlord quest) and that is a very good way to make people hate the game. The road map that they have released is what it is. Sure they "may" add a few things here are there but it's not going to change substantially. They have already said that. There will be no big expansions anymore for the game. Only mini content expansions from now on. There's a good reason IGN gave TBA a 5.5 (I think that is too high myself).

The problem for me is... Destiny is about the only game that I play mostly because that is what my friends play. That is the only reason I stuck around through year one D2. If it weren't for them... I'd have never played it again. We all hated year one D2 but we still played because we enjoyed playing with each other but now it's not just me that feels this way about the game. Even the people that I play with regularly are feeling the same way and a lot of us are tired of the shit that Bungie keeps doing to the game. We're doing the raid tonight just to help a buddy's wife through it but most of us don't really give a shit about doing it for ourselves ever again. We've already got everything out of it.

But to use the barometer of how things really are in the game. Just look at how many empty games are put up on our 100io site right now. None of them are full because most everyone just doesn't give a shit anymore.