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Icon Stage 1 to get this truck's height?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by thunderhope, Dec 21, 2018.

  1. Dec 21, 2018 at 4:21 PM
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    thunderhope

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    The height of the truck in this video is what I want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oS7gGE5F0

    Looks like its achieved with the Rough Country's 3-inch Suspension Lift Kit

    I dont want a spacer lift, would I be able to achieve this with the

    ICON STAGE 1 SUSPENSION KIT - K53001

    https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p281/ICON_Stage_1_Suspension_Kit_-_K53001.html

    And if yes, would all thats needed is just front coilovers and rear shocks?
    Also dont want any front rake, what should the front coilovers be set to when installed?
     
  2. Dec 21, 2018 at 4:23 PM
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  3. Jan 2, 2019 at 10:22 PM
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    You probably will not get the full 3” from those CO’S. With the std 600# spring you’d have to crank it to the max and it would ride like crap. If you go above 2.5-2.75 then it’s likely you’ll need new uca’s To get proper alignment. You can order with a 650# spring and you’ll get the ride height close to what you want without having to adjust the collar has much. Again ride quality will still suffer at that height as the suspension is nearly topped out. Usually these are shipped with enough preload to provide about 1.5” if lift and that’s probably about where they think they’re best.
     
  5. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:09 PM
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    Damn you have any other options i really dont wanna get spacers
     
  6. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:16 PM
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    Well hate to say it but even with spacers you’re limited by the geometry of the suspension. You can get really close to 3” if not more but it’ll be horrible for you. If it’s me I’d rather have a 2.75” suspension lift rather than a bracket kit that basically lowers the suspension to lift the truck. If you haven’t added tires you’ll get added height from those too. If you were 2wd you can do spindle to get height but think you’re 4x?
     
  7. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:24 PM
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    Im running 33 tires now so it did help
    And yeah i have a 4x4

    The 2.75 suspension you speak of is in total right including the 1 inch factory lift
    So the coilovers would be addint 1.75?
     
  8. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:27 PM
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    So I know you’re 3rd gen but what’s the 1” additional factory lift you’re speaking about. Do you have the pro?
     
  9. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:30 PM
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    No not pro but 3rd gen tacomas come with 1 inch lift from factory with stock suspension
     
  10. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:34 PM
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    Wut?

    If it's stock suspension, it doesn't have a lift. If it has a lift, it isn't stock.
    (Caveat for the Pro aside.)
     
  11. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:39 PM
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    I can’t give you a certain answer but a 1” lift has the be based off of something as a starting point. Is it that the offroad model sits higher than a 2wd prerunner model? I know the pro sits about 1” higher as it utilizes the bilstein 6112 CO. If so then I’d safely assume the answer is no as the control arms and overall suspension geometry will all be the same whether it be pro, offroad or whatever.
     
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    I believe they just sit 1 inch higher stock
     
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    Stock height is achieved via the stock suspension...if you're replacing your stock suspension you're not adding to the stock height, you're starting over with all new suspension.
     
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    Based on?
     
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    You are right! Thats the answer i was looking for thanks makes sense
     
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    Also having two threads with the same name going in separate sub forums is apt to create confusion.
     
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    That’s what I’m trying to determine so I can give OP the best answer possible. If it’s stock then it’s stock and the 2.5-2.75” lift should be achievable. I know the pro is actually higher than the other Tacoma models.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:50 PM
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    Guess i got confused
    This guy added a 2 inch spacer to make a total of 3 inches because the 1 inch is already there from factory

    https://youtu.be/yDyfS4v5hdY
     
  19. Jan 2, 2019 at 11:50 PM
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    Yeah, I can't really make any sense of it, and lunch is about over. :hungry:
     
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    Correct, because he kept his stock suspension on and put a 2 inch spacer on top of it. The Icon kit you linked earlier replaces your suspension with an entirely new setup, which is the better way to do it. Putting spacers on your stock suspension will compromise the ride quality and it's reliability long term.
     

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