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Motor oil filter change interval?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by chrispchicken9, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Mar 19, 2019 at 11:56 AM
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    Make up your mind.
     
  2. Mar 19, 2019 at 12:02 PM
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    The context of the thread is to look for ways to increase filter change intervals

    Don’t need to be a real dick about it.
    But wouldn’t expect much more from a third gen owner. Your mechanical depth is trim levels and price points.
    Besides why are u even in the first gen thread? Or do you just enjoy being a cuck
     
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  4. Mar 19, 2019 at 12:28 PM
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    Don't sweat it man. What's scary is when it's a noob that asks something like that! Seeing that you know your stuff, I see what you were asking better. Take a peek at forums on bobistheoilguy.com lots and lots of data and info on these topics
     
  5. Mar 19, 2019 at 12:31 PM
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    change it at every oil change, don't skimp out. you can go longer than 5k on Synthetic and even dino. depending on your driving habits, that's the main factor of when you "should" change it. lots of highway driving? wait til 7-8k. stop'n'go a lot? do it 4-5k.


    ^this. I pull the rubber flap aside, reach in with my claw tool, loosen the filter and then unscrew it by hand. so some oils spills? use a rag. then once/twice a year drop the skid and clean the remainder.



    lazy. do it on a non workday. start the engine, let it run for a few minutes to warm. then open the drain and go have a beer or two.

    I let mine drain for a good 20 minutes. have an oil pan that is wide enough to cover the drain plug and filter area so you can take off the filter at the same time.



    ^ not a bad idea. they also make silicone "funnels" that allow you to put them under the filter area to promote draining.



    you are looking for ways to get out of doing something that honestly you should be used to by now. you got called out, don't hate :)

    also, some 2nd/3rd Gen owners are former 1st Gen owners and know a thing or two about what you ask.


    You could always invest in a filter relocation kit, there are plenty out there. just make sure to route the line correctly and accommodate the increased capacity when filling.


    also the Fumoto valve is awesome. I got one years ago and never regretted it. drains a little slower but that means I can watch more of my DVR waiting for the drain :)
     
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    this
     
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    Oh my, struck a nerve! :mad:

    I'm off to the 3rd gen forum! :burnrubber:
     
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  8. Mar 19, 2019 at 2:46 PM
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    When was the last time you used the skid plate? Don’t put it back on :bananadance:
     
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    This is from Toyota Maintenance manual (it comes with all new cars). The option you have is the maintenance interval relevant to your driving (5k miles or 7.5k miles). Oil and filter always go together (note they don't say use 10k interval if you use synthetic oil).

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    Now anyone can deviate from the manufacturer's recommendations but then the reliability may be affected. With every oil change you should ask yourself a question: pay for the oil filter or the new engine.

    Driving without skids is kind of like running naked - skids are not only to protect from boulders when rock climbing, but keep all the shit out from underbelly including water or gravel sprays from the tires. Most modern cars come with shield under the engine (metal or plastic). They do just for that.

    As far as removing factory skid that piece of metal is heavy. But every 5k miles it is good to take it out and look at your engine from under it. Check for leaks, or any unusual things. You will see other parts worth checking like for example steering rack, lower radiator hose, things that you can't see from the top. Treat the "oil change" not as a "quick lube" but as a "scheduled maintenance and inspection". Your truck will thank you for that, as well as your wallet.

    I deal with factory skid by sliding under the truck, and after removing all skid bolts I let the skid plate lay on mu chest, then slide it out. The installation in reverse order - slide under the car, put a skid on my chest and lifting it slightly get all bolts in place.
     
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    Weren't you the guy who never changes his gear oil because its not outlined in the manual?
     
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    Yep :rofl:
     
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    Thanks all for the input.
    The filter relocation kit seems like it could be good idea. Also the plastic cup idea when removing the filter. Will look into these more.

    Was doing oil change every 5k and filter change every 10k (every other oil change) running mobile 1 synthetic. Which seams within reason (but not to everyone!)

    I’ll be doing more research on filter quality and performance pros/cons of various brands.

    For example, wouldn’t it make sense a filter twice as large would filter twice as long as regular? Then again I could be wrong!
     
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    I use synthetic and installed a filter relocation, which uses a larger filter (Wix 51515, Purolator 3001, etc.). Oil and filter changes happen as fast as I can move my hands. Oil capacity is increased by about half a quart. Change intervals are at 6 - 7K. Runs like a good 3rz. It has 327K miles, is almost 20 years old, and I expect it to last for a long time. Good luck.
     
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    We’re supposed to change the gear oil?
    JK
     
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    What’s this oil filter relocation I keep hearing about?
     
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    Hayden makes one, seems like it should fit all 5VZ engines but not sure on that. As long as you can find a suitable place to mount the
    filter it looks as if should work great but then of course you’d have to worry about the hoses getting brittle with age and breaking.
    https://www.carid.com/hayden/engine...mpn-291.html?singleid=1749691582&url=12088420
    For a company like toyota to put a screw on filter on at an angle so it pukes oil all over when you change it it ridiculous. And to use
    Canister type oil filters on the 3.5’s seems like 40’s tech....... Go figure.
     
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    I'll be honest, if I don't want to deal with the mess of changing the filter I won't do it every oil change. Most filters are good for 15K-20k and I change mine every 3k-5k. I never let a filter go more than 2 oil changes so 6k-10k on a filter isn't even the max life of the filter. The only reason I do this is because with the CS-144 alternator it is a PITA to change the filter on the 3.4
     
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    So the general consensus is to change the filter each oil change. I feel like the old guy here as that makes perfect sense. I remember a time that synthetic didn’t exist. And when it hit the scene it was considered snake oil. Now it’s the go to oil.

    I used to change oil and filter every 2-3k miles using dino. Started with the synthetic and stuck to the same intervals. Reaching 4K was an ‘oh, isht’ moment when realizing I’d gone that long. Now I’m reading more and seeing guys go 8k miles plus. My wife’s Yukon has an absurd change interval of around 7k.

    So going 6k on my 3rz using M1 and a Toyota filter is reasonable? I drive literal 2000 miles every month and adding an extra trip to each change would be pocketbook friendly.
     
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    I just removed the tag left by Toyota service after they did the oil change. They wrote "Next service i 1 year or 15000km (that is 9300 miles). An this was with dino oil. This is standard on every brand here in Poland. Aftet looking at the oil I drained after 3k miles and 1 year I think it is not good idea. My driving is mostly short distances so it is tougher but still. I wouldn't go over 5k miles. But it's just me.
     

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