Monthly So Cal Off-Road Run

Palomar Divide - July 20, 2019

Organizers: Norsemanvike
Google Doc Updated

Meet Time: - 10:00am
Location: - Chevron: 31669 Temecula Pkwy, Temecula, CA 92592

Palomar Divide, Palomar Mountain:
An easy going trail to the top of Palomar Mountain that is 2WD friendly. No need to sliders or other armor. During the middle of the day, we’ll be at the top of the mountain where it’s a little cooler to take in the great views. Bring drinks and a pack lunch if you want. If we’re so inclined, we may try to find the turn for high Point Truck Trail and take that down ( I always miss it though ), but I don't know what that trail is like.

TrailsOffRoad.com Video Link
https://youtu.be/8JtJhrYxSDM

Palomar Divide Participants:
@Norsemanvike @Ray1989 @Trah @SearchAndRescue @Musashi316

 

@Thorian

 

Off topic but what's everyone using for recovery gear? ARB worth the extra $$$?

I currently have this in my Amazon shopping cart, but can't pull the trigger lol.....

ARB ARB710LB 3-1/4" x 30' Recovery Snatch Strap Minimum Breaking Strength 24000 lbs Kinetic Stretch 20% With Reinforced Eyes and Protector Sleeves

$96 ARB ARB710LB 3-1/4" x 30' Recovery Snatch Strap Minimum Breaking Strength 24000 lbs Kinetic Stretch 20% With Reinforced Eyes and Protector Sleeves

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P9C5H8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Smittybilt 29312B Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4-Inch Shackle for 2-Inch Receivers

$38 Smittybilt 29312B Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4" Shackle for 2" Receivers , Black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CF1A7O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2TW9PAD7D7YND&psc=1

ARB ARB505 E-Z Deflator Kit 10-60 PSI Tire Pressure Gauge Rapid Air Down Offroad Kit (PSI)

$54 ARB ARB505 Deflator Kit 10-60 PSI Tire Pressure Gauge Rapid Air Down Offroad Kit With Recovery Gear Pouch (PSI)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LQCDOA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ASH3J3QJ61MH&psc=1

Viair 00088 88P Portable Air Compressor

$77 VIAIR 88P - 00088 Tire Inflator Portable Onroad/Offroad Air Compressor for Car, Truck, SUV & RV | 12V On/Off Road Tire Pump Air Compressor Portable Heavy Duty 120 PSI, Alligator Clips, Twist Chuck

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ASY23I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1


or should I go with All-Top Nylon Kit for $64.00 Prime Day Special?

$79 ALL-TOP Nylon Recovery Kit with Hitch Receiver: 3" x 30' (35000lbs) 100% Nylon Snatch Strap + 2" Shackle Hitch Receiver + 3/4 HD Shackles (2pcs) with Isolator + Storage Bag

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FL59Y51/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A36GVPZQ85EDWZ&psc=1

 

I don't even remember the brand of recovery strap I got but it was probably half the price of that ARB one and I've used it many times, no problems. Everything else looks good but if you have 33" tires you might want to get a bigger compressor...the

$91 Viair 88p Portable Compressor Kit (12V, 120 Psi, Forup to 33" Tires)

Viair 88p is a workhorse but it is slllllooooooooow compared to a 300p or 400p (or dual ARB compressors but that's $$$)

 

I would go with this kit instead:

$95 Motormic Tow Strap Recovery Kit – 3" x 30ft (30000 lbs.) Rope + 2" Shackle Hitch Receiver + 5/8" Locking Pin + 3/4" D Ring Shackles with Safety Ring + Heavy Duty Bag - Off Road Pick Up Towing

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072V51TRC
and instead of the 88p I would get the 300p just in case you need to air up a bigger tire:

$150 VIAIR 300P - 30033 Tire Inflator Portable Offroad Air Compressor for Truck & SUV | 12V On/Off Road Tire Pump Air Compressor Portable Heavy Duty 150 PSI, up to 33" Tires, 2.30 CFM, Alligator Clips

https://www.amazon.com/VIAIR-30033-...Compressor&qid=1563311221&s=automotive&sr=1-1

EDIT: just saw Ryan beat me to it lol

 

Yeah even with 32s it would take a solid 30 minutes to fill up all 4 tires (from 15psi to 35psi)

Though if you're a patient person I guess it wouldn't be all that bad, just sucks when everyone else on the trail is done airing up in 5 minutes and you've barely got one tire done lol.

 

If i go with the VIAIR 300P would I still need the ARB deflator since it does both?

As for the motormic tow strap wouldn't Nylon be better? So maybe the All top brand?

 

I don't rely on the deflator on the 300p, I only use it to fill up the tires. The better way to deflate your tires is to get a set of these guys

GoNorte Adjustable Tire Deflators - Heavy Duty Solid Brass (Set of 4)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZBMVF...&pd_rd_r=f29f908b-a80f-11e9-ba93-c31e6dacbe46

Just screw them onto each tire and wait

 

The ARB deflator is cool too, I've seen it before...it's fast. Really just depends on what you fancy the most. For the longest time I just used a screwdriver and a PSI gauge to check them lol. But that takes awhile with bigger tires.

 

I dont have either strap so i cant really speak for either one of them. I have a harbor freight strap that i have only had to use once and it worked fine for me.

 

I have/use the ARB deflator and I'm a fan. It's pretty fast and consistent. I've heard the the pre-set ones will vary per elevation due to pressure changes.

I try and stick to the KISS mentality.

 

Yeah I don't think it's necessary to spend a bunch of money on a name brand recovery strap, just so long as it's rated well and can handle heavy loads and most importantly, does not use tow hooks.

I need to get a snatch strap next though, those are ideal for recovery tugs. The basic recovery straps that don't have any stretch to them are hard on vehicles when you're stuck and you have to yank someone with it.

 

Most people i have seen that have had the ARB deflator didnt know how to use it and had to use something else lol

 

Those are called Mallcrawlers and I try to not associate with them.

 

I have no idea how to use one but then again i dont own one

 

I will say those little individual deflators are kind of a pain to get dialed in just right, I always end up having to finish off each tire with my hand gauge/deflator. But they sure do beat the screwdriver method

 

I was the only one who was done airing up in 5 min last weekend ... okay maybe 10 min.



It just made the compressor free to help air others up faster.

 

I've got the 88P and 34" tires, from 18ish to 34ish PSI it's about 4 minutes per tire. It's not bad at all, especially when you look at the steep price jump for bigger compressors (exponentially diminishing returns).

X2 these things save my knees & back every time I air down!

 

Thanks for the quick input fellas!

I'll probably invest more and get the Viair 300P version, All Top Recovery kit, and ARB Deflator.

Hopefully I can attend a Monthly run soon. Currently on @Shmellmopwho order list for some sliders

 

4 minutes per tire on 34s??? I couldn't get my 33s done in less than a half hour with my 88p. Maybe it was just old and abused, who knows. The 300p is at least twice as fast as that one was