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Need shock help

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by StickySauce, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. Dec 30, 2019 at 9:16 PM
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    StickySauce

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    For Christmas my brother bought me Bilstein B6 4600 shocks for my 06' TRD Sport SR5 4x4 access cab with tow package. It is completely stock atm with Toyo ATII tires. But I'm wondering if I go to 5100 what it will do to the ride quality. I do use this for hauling for work every couple weeks and go wheeling every couple months. The trailers I haul are between 3500 lbs and 5500 lbs I'm looking for something all around. I got the truck with 124k on it (I have 192k now) and have been not been super happy with the ride, I think it pitches too much in corners and braking but I might as well not even have shocks installed at this point as they are original to the vehicle. So I need so outside advise. The company has a 30 day return policy and we at at day 18 right now. So that's the reason for the new post. Please help me here. I have very limited time.

    Thank you every one in advance!
     
  2. Dec 30, 2019 at 9:19 PM
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    Bishop84

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    You sound like you already want the 5100's more than the 4600's. They will 100% ride better. Plus if you chose to add-a-leaf in the rear or any rear helper, the 5100 handles the extended height better.

    I would do 5100's, and an add-a-leaf, or a sumo spring in the rear.
     
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  3. Dec 30, 2019 at 9:26 PM
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    StickySauce

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    The only reason I'm asking about her 5100's is because he also bought his wife a 2019 4Runner Off-road 4x4 that had 5100's on it because it road better than the stock off road, but I don't know if that it would feel the same in a taco.

    I've read in other post in the past that the 5100's only feel better if you go to something like OME884 and heavier rear leafs( don't remember which one's atm)
     
  4. Dec 30, 2019 at 9:31 PM
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    I have an email somewhere from Bilstein stating that 4600 are the same in quality and function as 5100 except they are not adjustable. That is the only difference other than color.
    We put the 4600 on my Dads' '00 Tacoma and the ride improvement was just like when I put 5100 on my 2012.
     
  5. Dec 30, 2019 at 9:34 PM
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    Muddycoinwash

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    I was just looking at 5100's and I thought I read the rear shocks don't work with stock height trucks. Maybe another member can correct me if I'm wrong?
     
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    Bishop84

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    Almost every 5100 listing says 0-1" of lift in rear.
     
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    What ajustability do the 5100's have? Spring perch? Preload? High-speed and/or Low-speed compression and rebound?
     
  8. Dec 30, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    Muddycoinwash

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    Thank you. My bad, I didn't see (OP) was looking for gen 2 5100's. The info I was quoting was for gen 1 5100's. on the DSMS page:
    THE 5100 SERIES REAR SHOCKS FOR THIS MODEL '96-04 TACOMA REQUIRE A 1-1.5" REAR LIFT THEY DO NOT FIT A STOCK HEIGHT REAR SUSPENSION. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE THIS REAR SHOCK SET IF YOU DO NOT PLAN TO USE WITH A 1-1.5" REAR LIFT!
     
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  9. Dec 30, 2019 at 10:13 PM
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    This was posted in the Gen2 forums sooo..... Just saying. Lol!

    Thank you for the clarification though!
     
  10. Dec 31, 2019 at 2:19 AM
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    muddog321

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    TW 1-piece driveshaft with 1310 u-joints All Pro and Budbuilt skid plates OME Dakar rear springs 3" with 5100 5100 front set at 1.75" (3rd groove up) with stock springs Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R16 2018 TRD Offroad wheels 16x7J with +25mm offset Powerstop rotors with Z36 pads and rebuilt with OEM caliper kit Complete rebuilt rear brakes drums, shoes, springs, wheel cylinders Rebuilt rear and all wheel bearings front /rear Yukon 3.73 ring/pinion rebuild Denso 130A rebuilt alternator AGM 24F Battery New OEM idlers and tensioner assembly New AC compressor New PS hose and flushed Walker SS Quiet Flow muffler Denso Iridium long life plugs #3421 (SK20HR11) OEM coolant, cap, and thermostat NAPA CV axles and new seals ECGS bushing Rhino front guard Shortened mud flaps Alziria Black Tail Lights Nilight Headlights X-Bull Traction Boards Maaco full single stage paint job 2023 Nat CV to Knuckle seals 710573 New SKF wheel bearings/hubs BR930978 in 2024
    The ride height is adjustable on the front Bilstein below from 0-2.5" and can use your stock springs.
    If you set at the second from top position Tacoma with stock coils will be raised about 1.75-2".
    Then as in post above you can add height in the rear and best is full spring packs with Dakars but price may determine. They really help towing and no sag.

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    Bilstein 24-239370 - Bilstein B8 Ride Height Adjustable Shock Absorber Toyota Tacoma Front; 2005-2015.
    Bilstein B8 5100 (Ride Height Adjustable)
    Position: Front
    Applications Notes: Front Lift Height: 0-2.5; Without X-REAS Suspension
    BILSTEIN 5100 Series Ride Height Adjustable Shock Absorbers are designed for front coilover style pickup and SUV suspensions. With the use of multiple snap ring grooves to position the spring seat at different heights the vehicles ride height can be changed anywhere between 0-2.5” depending on application. Features and Benefits: An extremely affordable and practical alternative to coil spring spacers, with the benefit of BILSTEIN's superior monotube design. Lifetime Warranty, Utilizes the vehicle's stock front coil springs. Zinc finish with multi-layer unique BILSTEIN coating for extreme protection. Self-adjusting deflective disc valving with independent rebound and compression tuning.
    Fitment: Toyota 4Runner 2009-2003, FJ Cruiser 2009-2007, Tacoma 2015-2005
    Applications: Toyota 4Runner 2009-2003, FJ Cruiser 2009-2007, Tacoma 2015-2005
    Fitment Details: Toyota Tacoma 4WD, Front, 2.5 Lift

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    Bilstein 24-186728 - Bilstein B8 Shock Absorber Toyota Tacoma Rear; 2005-2017.
    Bilstein B8 5100
    Position: Rear
    Applications Notes: For Rear Lifted Height: 0-1
    Bilstein B8 5100 shock absorbers are designed as a direct fit solution for lifted trucks and SUV’s. These shock absorbers feature a monotube design which provides consistent fade free performance. B8 5100 shock absorbers utilize a unique, velocity sensitive, digressive piston which reacts to changing road conditions. All B8 5100 shock absorbers are tuned for each specific application to assure optimal performance is achieved. B8 5100 shock absorbers offer a significant improvement in ride quality, handling, and comfort.
    Fitment: Toyota Tacoma 2017-2005
    Applications: Toyota Tacoma 2017-2005
    Fitment Details: Toyota Tacoma 4WD 2.5 lift rea
     
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  11. Dec 31, 2019 at 4:45 AM
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    Larzzzz

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    I installed 5100s not to long ago with 3rd gen coils up front and icon 3 leaf progressive aal. It rides very nice imo.
    You could also look for a take off set from a 3rd gen in the bst thread.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    Hmm . . . none as yet, that's why i'm here . . .
    Not meaning steal a thread, question for Larzzzz - with that setup you have how much lift did u get? what did u set 5100's at? Thanks.
     
  13. Dec 31, 2019 at 1:22 PM
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    burrito782

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    https://www.shockwarehouse.com/news/bilstein-5100-vs-bilstein-heavy-duty.cfm
     
  14. Jan 7, 2020 at 4:19 PM
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    StickySauce

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    So after further consideration I think I'm gonna stay with the 4600's. Thank you all for your input and the information. I was gonna pull the trigger and get the 5100's and do a lift but I think I might only keep the truck for another year then either get a newer Taco or a newer Tundra.
     

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