AdventureTaco - turbodb's build and adventures

I certainly found that out the last time.

Thanks for the burger.

 

Best thread on the site, thanks for the inspiration!

 

Glad you guys are enjoying!

Thanks guys!

I'm definitely super lucky. Sorry I'm so wordy, but happy you're entertained!

So true - it's an under appreciated location in the park for sure. One I'm sure I'll be back to!

Yeah, but we could do moar! Need to get back into Colorado and bag some 14ers. And I want to do more in Canada. And, and, and...

I mean, besides pulling the photos off the site, editing, and re-publishing them, there's no way to scrub your plates in old photos. It's kind-of a pain.

I mean, there is one other way - get new plates, so the old ones aren't relevant any longer! hahahahahah (this might actually be easier, if you really care.)

Man, hope that surgery goes well! Definitely more coming this month, just have to wait a wee bit longer to wrap up the current trip.

I know, and I'm sorry. Was a very difficult choice we made, which we actually discussed for about 15 minutes as we drove through. Huge bummer, but necessitated by timing and an already late start. Luckily though, I'll be seeing you soon!

 

Food at dinner was actually our issue - turns out, it's hard to find anything open on Christmas - even fast food and Chinese, and even without stopping, we missed (by 15 minutes) our window to eat dinner (in Twin Falls). So, it was to bed with no dinner for us!

 

So finding out the girlfriend and I had several days over New Years to go exploring we decided to hit Death Valley. Weather conditions/ road closings looked bad so I made the switch to Anza-Borrego just 2 days before we left. I've been there before but I decided to look at your posts for recent suggestions. I ended up making notes of the roads, places, and points you'd done and used that as a guide.

Worked out really well.

We did skip the trestle. A call to the Park Visitor Center did confirm it is trespassing and the railroad does patrol. I thought a holiday might attract more patrols.

Was "interesting" to see the difference of being in the State Park vs entering Ocotillo Wells SVRA. Lots more people. The Pumpkin Patch seems to be a gathering point. 40-50 people, about 20 vehicles, and I think we were the only ones street legal. Didn't spend much time there.

We found the "Sheep Tanks" Looked at some other directions online when we had cell service. Wasn't sure we were there but wandering 100' up a tributary wash and footprints confirmed we were on the path. First tank is fairly easy to get to and worth the hike. The other two had a short but steep climb to get on top of the shelf. Could see some of the water but leaning into a possible 20' swan dive into the crevice gave me a safety pause. So I don't think the effort for the reward was worth seeing only small parts of the other two.

Arroyo Seco Del Diablo's blockage has become a Mud Pond. Some newb decided his stock SUV could follow his buddy's rig. Didn't work out as planned.


This was a real mess. The guy tried going to the left of the bush and sunk in. If you look in front of the bush and to the left you can see how far he got. Where he is now is because when trying to winch him out he just kept sliding sideways down the ditch on the driver's side. From this point the ditch gets deeper. Several vehicles, 3 or 4 winches, lots of people and plenty of suggestions. So we headed back down the wash.

Couldn't find Blue Sun Cave, the rest of the trip went fine.

Drove from Los Angeles to Font's point on Friday afternoon and left from Rockhouse Road on Wednesday about noon. A very nice trip.

 

Almost Dropped the Truck Off the Floor Jack - ADS Coilover Maintenance
November 27, 2019

Today was going to be an easy day working on the truck. I knew what I had to do and it wasn't hard. I'd gathered the parts I needed - twice really, since the first time I tried to do this work, I found that I needed some additional bits that I thought I wasn't going to be replacing. :annoyed_gaah: And unlike some of my more advanced projects, I had all the tools for this one already.

After 27K miles on the ADS coilovers that I installed earlier this year, it was time to replace the spherical bearings. Well - the spherical bearings and the misalignment spacers - since when I originally set about to replace the bearings, I found that the spacers had essentially disintegrated. But we'll get to that in a moment.

The process is essentially this:

1. Remove the coilovers from the truck.
2. Remove the snap rings that hold the spherical bearing into the eye of the shock.
3. Press out the old spherical bearing.
4. Perform steps 3, 2, 1 in reverse with the new components.

I figured 90 minutes to two hours would be plenty - since, for me, pulling the shocks means a bit of acrobatics to get the resis off the top of the frame. A great way to spend the day before Thanksgiving.

Getting the shocks off the truck was no problem. I've learned that the easiest way to do this is to remove the wheel, then remove the four bolts that secure the lower ball joint (LBJ) to the lower control arm (LCA). This allows me to pivot the spindle, hub, and brake assembly back toward the rear of the LCA and makes it easy to remove the shock from it's mounting positions. Soon enough, the shock was out, and I was staring at what can only be described as a mutilated mess.

Not only were my spherical bearings toast, but the misalignment spacers were almost no more. They'd worn completely through, and the lower shock bolt wasn't in much better shape - a groove worn all the way around it where the spacers had been.

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I knew this was going to be the case however, and I'd ordered a bunch of spherical bearings and misalignment spacers from Tyler at ADS before getting started, so I continued on - unphased. That is, until I ran into a little problem on the driver side. The eye of one of the snap rings had broken off at some point - while in service on the truck - and I had no replacements, since I never would have expected these to break. In fact, it's still perplexing to me, though you can see the wear on the shock eye as well!

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At any rate, I found the correct size snap rings at a Napa - but not my local one - and that left me no choice but to go pick them up...except that the truck was positioned about 12" into the garage, so I couldn't close the door. Not wanting my tools to be "ripe for the mooching," while I was gone, my only option was to move the truck - which was on three wheels at the time - first, so I could close the door. This was a sketchy procedure, since a floor jack was holding the front of the truck up, and the plan was to back up slowly and have the jack roll along the ground.

Sounds like a good plan, ehh?​

With @mrs.turbodb watching the jack to make sure the truck wasn't slipping off it, I slowly backed up. Despite what you might be thinking, this went just fine...until I got clear of the garage. All I had to do at that point was take the truck out of gear - but instead, I let up on the clutch!

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The truck jumped - as it tried to stall. @mrs.turbodb screamed. I pushed the clutch back in as quickly as I could. To give you a sense of how quickly this happened, the truck did not stall. At this point, @mrs.turbodb was freaking out. She was 100% sure the truck was going to fall - it was supported by only the last ¼" of the top round surface of the floor jack. Luckily, I was able to slowly exit, and then get jack stands under the frame (and skid) so I could lower, and then reset, the floor jack.

It was a very close call to a very bad situation.

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Returning from Napa - snap rings in hand - the rest of the process was once again straight forward. The first order of business was to remove the old snap rings, which my Channellock Snap Ring Pliers did a great job with.

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Next, I figured that even if it was overkill, I might as well use the shop press I'd purchased for replacing my rear axle seals and wheel bearings to push out the spherical bearings. I'm sure I could have just as easily used a c-clamp or vise for this procedure.

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The old bearings removed, I installed one snap ring, pressed the new bearing into place, then installed the second snap ring on the other side - easy peasy lemon squeasy as @mini.turbodb would say.

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Finally, it was time to button everything back up onto the truck. I'd also purchased new lower shock bolts (90080-10124) since mine were so chewed up, so those went in and were tightened to the proper 101 ft-lbs that Toyota specs. The three upper nuts were tightened to 47 ft-lbs, and then I used a 14mm socket to snug up the four LBJ bolts to their specified 59 ft-lbs. I was nearly there. All that was left to do was throw the wheels back into place, 89 ft-lbs on each of the lug nuts.

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Whew. Crisis barely averted, and now the shocks are ready for another year of wheeling. Next year, I'll probably have to rebuild them.

Post-Mortem 1: So Why Did My Misalignment Spacers Disintegrate?

So, you may take a look at my misalignment spacers and think to yourself - as I did - holy s#!%, what happened there?! Here's my theory.

I've had the ADS shocks installed for the last 27K miles (and change). And those weren't the easiest 27K miles given the way the truck is used. Still - I don't think those 27K are what caused the problem - or at least, they didn't start the problem. I think what happened - though I don't know for sure - is that the original OEM bolt got worn over the first 100K miles when I had the OEM and then Toytec BOSS coilovers installed. Both of those are of the metal-sleeve-in-a-rubber-bushing design, and my theory is that such a design allows for a bit more play between the bolt and sleeve. When I ultimately moved to the ADS setup, I didn't really check the condition of the 14MM bolt beyond simply making sure it was straight and that the threads were in good shape. I didn't even consider the fact that smooth part of the shaft being worn would be any sort of problem.

Of course, wear there is a problem - because loose parts wear faster - and so I think that initial wear (from the shocks-with-rubber-bushings) caused even more wear on the bolt and misalignment spacers. This wear was perhaps even faster - since there was no rubber to absorb the impacts. You can see the result of the 135K miles worth of wear on the bolt in my photo above - there's a nice groove where the misalignment spacers have worked their way into the steel (and perhaps the metal sleeves from shocks pre-ADS).

Am I sure that's what happened? No. But I'll be keeping an eye on everything now, since I've got new everything in place, and so theoretically I shouldn't see the same thing next time.

Post-Mortem 2: Why the Sketchy Floor Jack Move? You Dumba$$!

I didn't think of it being quite as sketch as it ended up being when I started. As it was, the jack stayed under the skid the entire 12" I needed to move, just fine. In fact, we all know that the jack routinely moves under a vehicle as you lift the vehicle - it has to roll on it's wheels in order for the arm to remain in position on the bottom of the vehicle. This works because the friction is way greater where it contacts the truck than the friction between the wheels and ground.

It was the screw up at the end - where I wasn't paying attention to order of operations with the clutch - that almost cost me.

My other option - to move the truck those 12" so I could close the garage and go to the parts store - would have been to reassemble the front end. That would have meant reattaching the LBJ and reinstalling the wheel - so I could lower the truck onto the bump stop (since there'd be no coilover to hold the load) and then back up. Once I got the new parts, I'd have to reverse all that again to reinstall the coilover. I was trying to shortcut all of that work.

 

@hoarder23 found that same puddle

check out post 85
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/stuck-in-ocotillo.643988/page-5

 

I spy a crack starting in the same place I had some.

 

I looked at that pretty closely when I was in there. I don't think it's a crack, just the outline of where water residue evaporated off, leaving a rust line. Even used a toothbrush to clean up all those welds, just to try to be extra careful. Not that I won't get cracks there - seems like a lot do. But, not yet as far as I can tell.

I think the bearings (assuming the OD is the same size) are a generic part. I got them from ADS b/c @Squeaky Penguin said I should just get some COM10T bearings, and when I called to talk to ADS, they didn't seem too expensive (they call them "Bearing, 5/8 Heim FKS 10T F1"). The misalignment spacers on the other hand are highway robbery! Cost double the bearings, and I don't think they are a generic part (at least, mine and Mike's are different).

I wish I could keep from boxing myself into a corner. Really though, I just don't have the room. When I moved the truck back a foot, it was hard to get by in the alley - that's how tight it is back there. Perhaps what you're saying is that I need to move, and acquire a new bigger shop. I can't argue there!

 

I spotted Dan's East Coast alter ego....or maybe his future 3rd gen....or maybe he already has a 3rd gen and is on another epic road trip.

Either way. Had a manual transmission and Cal Poly sticker...

[/crappy cell phone picture]

 

uh...duh.

 

Both of my LCAs were beginning to fail in this exact spot.

I'm pretty sure the

$15 com10 aurora COM-10 COM series 5/8" ID X 1.19" OD mono spherical ball bearing

com10 part designation is not correct. I have always got com10t with the "t" indicating a teflon lining between the sleeve and the unibal portions of the bearing. com10 bearing don't have the teflon lining.

 

Well, at least he's got good taste in stickers! hahahaha

Sure, don't quote the whole thing .

Thanks - I didn't know about the T, which is clearly an important bit. I went back and looked at my ADS invoice and it does have a T there as well, though ADS calls them "Bearing, 5/8 Heim FKS 10T F1"

That kit looks reasonably priced. I paid ~$25 per side for my replacement parts. (bearing, spacers, rings). Plus shipping.

Oh, I should say that I found snap rings for way cheap (like 97 cents or something) at my local Ace Hardware, after I'd spent $2.50 each for them at Napa.

 

This better

No you can't. so...uh...duh

 

For the bearing, this is what I have been buying: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/qa1-com10t/

For the snap rings, Dan found them at Napa I believe.

As for the misalignment spacers, don't automatically assume you have to replace yours. They do not typically require replacement like the bearings do. Only when there is an issue with the shock bolt as Dan found out. There are 3 dimensions to consider when ordering misalignment spacers. The overall width when installed, the ID of the bearing race they will fit into and the OD of the shock bolt.

For Toyota applications, the shock bolt is not a common size at 14 mm so finding misalignment spacers that fit correctly might be tricky at places that normally sell them. https://www.kartek.com/parts-categories/misalignments.html

 

also the offset of them.

 

There might be offset. My Kings have no offset and I don't think Dan's had offset either. I have no experience with icons so they may. To me it does seem odd that some do and some don't. Seems like offset is used to correct a problem, like being to close to the cv axle boot.

 

@m3bassman - all those dimensions that Mike and Monte mention are in the MetalTech details on the page you linked. And you do have offsets for your misalignment spacers. I think if I were you, I'd just get the kit. Maybe shop around to see if you can find the kit cheaper, but that's about it.

This is correct - no offset on the ADS. As we've heard from Brett @Squeaky Penguin, the silver and blue brands seem to share a lot of parts.

 

hmm Im pretty sure there is offset. Not much but a slight one on both my Kings and the ADS.

 

logical except that isn't always the case. There isn't always something that need correcting.