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2nd Gen OME Dakar hub to fender measurements

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by OZ-T, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. Apr 23, 2019 at 3:48 PM
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    Well finally got around to more measurements today . Something looked off when I was washing the truck . Right rear 26 1/4 “ left rear 25 1/2” bottom of center cap to bottom of fender . I do have the spacer on the driver front for lean BUT :driver side front is 25” and passenger front 25 1/2” :confused: wonder if I need a new spacer ? @DrFunker @boogie3478 :notsure::confused: @EatSleepTacos. I do have a new frame and never had a crooked rear end until the frame swap even with the new OEM springs that came with the frame my rear was really crooked . So dealer felt bad ,I bought Dakar’s and dealer installed for free. Still low on the left rear . Also all body bushing were replaced with Energy Suspensions Bushings and new bed bolts . Could it be front spacer is worn on driver side causing right rear to be high . :confused::annoyed: @OZ-T
     
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  2. Apr 24, 2019 at 2:36 AM
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    I have a similar lean issue. Have been trying to figure it out. I am considering adding a block in the back to fix it. :anonymous:
    Will more than likely take the spacer I have in the front out.
     
  3. Apr 24, 2019 at 3:18 AM
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    Yea , I still need to loosen and torque the Dakar’s and maybe a new spacer up front since I’m 1/2” low on driver side again .
     
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  4. May 8, 2019 at 5:24 AM
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    2014 DCSB, OME 95R’s have been on about a week. 24 1/4 driver, 24 passenger. I carry 350-400 lbs of sliders, armor, winch and junk.
     
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  5. May 13, 2019 at 4:33 AM
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    I have yet to get under my truck to figure this out because of the rain .:rain:
     
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  6. May 13, 2019 at 8:59 AM
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    You getting rain? Really.....not here in the sunny 'shires. Nothin' but blue skies everyday. :cool:




    :devil:
     
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  7. May 13, 2019 at 9:05 AM
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    :rofl:
     
  8. Jun 5, 2019 at 4:25 AM
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    Bilstein 6112s top setting ,Total Chaos UCAs ,1/4" top plate spacer driver side ,SS extended brake lines ,Old Man Emu Medium Duty Dakar leaf springs with AAL,OME carrier bearing shim , Bilstein 5125s for 2-3” of lift in rear ,Timbren SES bump stops , SS extended brake lines rear , Toytec dif drop , Hayden high performance transmission fluid cooler,aFe pro dry air filter .Baja amber driving combo ditch lights , Devil horns by Andres ,Weathertecs floor protector, American Racing wheels Baja 17x8,4.5 BS , 285/70 Falken Wildpeaks AT/3W .Body Armor rear bumper . Extra D rings in bed ,Blue sea fuse block and 100amp breaker ,HomerTaco custom grill in Super White , TRD radiator cap ,Birddawg Industries rear view mirror riser bracket ,Coverking NeoSupreme Mossy Oak seat covers , Paranoid Fabrications fuse /relay holder Painted pinch weld.Shorty antenna ,HVAC knob mod ,LED dome and map lights , Tri Fold bed cover ,UltraGauge ,Morimoto XB LED fog lights ,Energy Suspension poly body bushings and sway bar bushings ! Geartech Customs splash guards ,Salex center console organizer . Mobtown tailgate cap ,tailgate anti theft mod .X-Mat sound deadening/insulation cab floor . Mobtown weld on rock sliders 0* with kickout Raptor lined . ,NEW frame courtesy of Toyota !
    Update : still 1/2” low on drivers front with 1/4” spacer . Wheelers Off-road suggests a 3/8” spacer on the driver coil over . Rear left to right is pretty much level but the medium duty Dakar’s did not give me the lift I wanted so probably AAL in the future . I’m just tired of paying for labor :spending: I’m pretty much mechanically challenged o_O
     
  9. Jun 11, 2019 at 7:01 AM
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    I'm going to be doing an install this weekend on the EL095R on my 2015.

    Only thing I'm not quite sure on is what I need to lube on the new bushings for the install? I have this bushing kit from headstrong: https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p513/Full_leaf_pack_bushing_kit.html

    Do I need to only lube the outside of the small bushing metal sleeve or do I need to lube the outside of the bushing, too, where the bushing meets the sleeve in the leaf spring? To date I've seen 2 videos where they didn't use any lube at all, I've seen 2 videos where they only lube the outside of the small bushing metal inner sleeve before they place it, and I've seen 1 photo where it looked like everything got lube, outside of the bushings, inside of the bushings, etc.

    What's the general consensus?
     
  10. Jun 11, 2019 at 7:07 AM
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    I lubed the S### out of everything with Lucas marine, inside & outside of sleeve and outside of bushings. Used greaseable bolts. My official poly bushing instructions said do not grease the outside of poly bushings. They don’t want them twisting in the shackles.

     
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  11. Jun 11, 2019 at 7:11 AM
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    So you didn't follow that advice, right? Reading that, it sounds like I need to just grease the sleeve that goes inside the bushing and leave the outside of the bushings alone then.
     
  12. Jun 11, 2019 at 7:14 AM
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    Correct. I also drain and fill my transmission with Valvoline MaxLife and have run with scissors.
     
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    Measured again today ,it’s been a while .
    Driver front 25”
    Passenger front 25 1/4”
    Driver rear 25 5/8 “
    Passenger rear 25 3/4
    Dang near level. I prefer a 1” rake so maybe the Dakar AAL in the future :notsure:
     
  16. Nov 20, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    My truck seems like a bit of an oddball compared to some of these measurements.

    OME 885's with nitrochargers and Dakars. Leaf removed from the Dakars and a Leer Topper.

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    Hey everyone, my stock leafs were inverted with no weight in the back, and I was due for some new tires, so I decided to install the springs along with Gabriel g57010 struts up front and G63494 in the rear.

    Full tank, empty bed -
    Front: 21”
    Rear: 24.5”

    The truck rode rough on the original ‘01 Bilstein hardware, but I am surprised at how much I can feel every bump with the new hardware. The rake is obviously significant, and I’m not sure why it’s so much different. Any recommendations on how to proceed? I’m thinking I’ll take a leaf out as OME recommends, but maybe I just bought the wrong struts? Should I be installing a levelling kit up front or something (saw another posted saying those are bad for the suspension)? I’m new to all of this and kinda confused as to why I gained so much more lift than expected... I thought that my hardware had a 1.5” lift over stock (stock being the low sitting non TRD) and that the 2.25” lift of the Dakar’s would bring me up 3/4” and now I’m 3.5” of differential :( any advice would be appreciated.

     
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    OME AAL on the way with some anti squeak pads . Medium duty Dakar’s just not giving me the height I want .
     
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    I haven't been here in years, but I think some of you might appreciate some first hand experience with these leaf springs over a long period of time, hence this post...

    I installed dakars on my 2nd gen sometime in 2013, and removed the 3rd leaf so my truck would sit level (885's up front). No complaints at first, it rode great at first and had nice articulation. I'm a carpenter by trade so I am constantly loading the bed, sometimes with up to ~1000lbs. Welp after 5ish years I noticed major problems with the leaf springs, admittedly I waited to long to address the problem, now I have broken springs on both sides to the point it is almost unsafe to drive. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't modify the leaf pack, don't pull out a spring unless you are willing to deal with consequences that the manufacturer never planned on.
     
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