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LED Lighting Conversion

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by chan2565, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. Jun 21, 2020 at 12:03 AM
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    Is there a flasher for LED lights that will eliminate the hyper flashing?
     
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    FYI. I bought the Sylvania Zevo lights 6000k for map lights and dome light. I am VERY happy with the map lights. Noticeable brighter, I am now able to read at night and a whiter light. The dome light is whiter 6000k range but I don't think it is any or much brighter than the original. I would buy the map lights again for sure but not the dome light.
     
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    Wow! So much good info. New tacoma owner, but been reading stuff on tacoma world for the past year. Just spent about an hour reading through as much of this whole thread as I could and seems like stuff is kind of changing pretty pretty rapidly! Ive got a '19 OR and want some LEDs. Sounds like XenonDepot and Marimoto's are solid. I went to both their sites and they've got quite a few options. I want LEDs for my lows/highs, but was gonna hold off on the fogs since I am thinking of getting some lamin-x until I am ready to get some Baja pods for down there. Anyways... whats the most recent update with this stuff? Any specific bulb recommendations for my needs? Thanks a ton! Stoked to be apart of the community, finally! DSC07205.jpg
     
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    I’ll save you a lot of time and money. Get Hikari Ultra H11 for both low and high beam. Not regular Hikari, but the Ultra “eye of megatron” ones. There is a thread on here if you want to read 200 pages on this, and I’m sure someone will post it.
     
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    Cool thanks! These right here?
    https://www.amazon.com/HIKARI-Headlight-Conversion-Lumileds-Warranty/dp/B077BT6M6Z

    Are they the same hue as the DRLs?
     
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    Yeah I was trying to find that written in words, 6000k is what comes to my mind too. I think TacoTwonz stated that in a video I watched recently. Thanks for the input!
     
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    Glad to help!
     
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    I've written several reviews in here as well as @RobP62. We both have tested several different drop in LED bulbs. Xenon Depot's Extreme kit is a very solid setup, but it is quite expensive. The HIKARI Ultra LED Headlight Bulbs work great in the projector housing. Yes, these will also work fine in the High Beam housing. However, in my tests and comparisons the HIKARI LED CREE XHP50 performed better in the reflector housing (not sure these are still available. See picture below for comparison of the two as far as design.

    Either way, going from stock Halogen to these, you will see a significant difference and if ease of install and life of the bulb is your main concern. Then these are great. However if light projection and quality of the light on the road is your main concern. HID is your best option. I prefer HID personally, but there are complications with those an can be a headache. The morimoto Elite HID kits with the Dual Relay harness is hands down the best way to go, but there is much more involved to the install than LED.

    LED Install: 5 minutes or less
    HID Install: 15+ minutes


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    Good stuff! I searched those XHP50s on Amazon and found some that are currently available. Called XHP50.2, so maybe just an updated version. Would you say HIDs are worth the hassle? I have done little to no research on them, as all I've seen is how they're difficult to setup.
     
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    Sup My Brother!? As you know Brett, when the Sport was totalled I lost the Xenon Depot headlights. When I finally replaced the Sport with the Pro, I remembered I still had the Hikari's so I threw them in there.

    Here are a couple shots. These are unadjusted, out of the box and look at that cutoff everyone likes to say is impossible with the 3rd Gen headlight housing.

    In the woods just low beam and oem (Rigid) fogs.

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    Out on the road with the lows and oem fogs

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    and just to show how much difference it is, here are the low and high beams together

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    Amazon recently had them for sale for $70 a set. I almost bought a set to have as a backup.

    Great job keeping this thread alive Brett! <3
     
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    Sweet pictures! You've got me sold. Just ordered some. Did you use the same bulb for highs and lows? Parker315 said there's that other bulb that's better for the highs. So from my understanding, these for lows and these for highs. Thanks to you both!
     
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    Yea, I have the exact same bulb in both. When we all bought these there were some other guys in the thread that were much more technical than me. They actually removed the screws that holds the base to the blade, shown here

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    then they were turning the blade (the silver part with the leds) so that when it was finally locked into the socket the led's were at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock. The Xenon Depot bulbs had this ability built into them.

    I didn't do it then, and I am not doing it now.

    I can tell you this, do not twist these into the socket hard or any other way that they are suppose to be, because the locking tabs will break. One of them is larger and shaped differently so they only go in one way.

    My review of the Zenon Depot bulbs goes into great detail about how the adjustments are made to those. The same would apply to these except for you'll need to drill into them.
     
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    I was looking at these until I stumbled onto this thread. Supposedly plug n play. I’m just starting to think about swapping. Their interior lights are excellent.

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    Those are going to be better than the OEM halogens but you can do better. How are these cooled down with no fans? The LED chip doesn't get hot but the internals do.

    Be careful with these. Also, these are rated at only 4k lumens per set, so 2k per bulb.

    I think you should look around a little.
     
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    More awful advice all round. The Xenon Depot LEDs are well documented to be a very poorly designed and low performing product, not sure why you would try to upsell these as a "very solid but expensive setup". As clearly documented in the thread here where they fail to meet the stock halogen output at 42'. They produce lots of foreground light which may fool people that don't know better, but the loss of distance light is catastrophic, which is the entire point of a headlight.

    As to the Hikaris, only one of those actually attempts to replicate a halogen bulb filament. The XHP50 that you recommend fails to replicate a halogen filament in any way, it is their entry level square LED like those from 5 years ago. The Hikari Ultra is their high performance flagship LED. It is odd to recommend the low performing entry level LED product not designed to replicate a halogen filament at all over the flagship performance product that is best in class at replicating a halogen bulb. A botched design like the XHP50 will certainly create more short range light scatter, which might fool one into thinking they have brighter lights, but little do most realize the high beam does actually have a focused hot spot just above the low beam cut off for maximum distance projection. And going to an LED that doesn't replicate a halogen at all will drastically reduce the distance projection, reducing the range of the high beam, which is counter to their entire purpose.

    Claiming your LEDs are 'adjustable' is admitting you do not understand headlight optics at all. No reputable brand has 'adjustable' LEDs. The emitters should always be placed at 3 and 9 o'clock, zero exceptions.

    Don't fall for that BS. There are so many issues with dual filament LEDs and trying to make them perform properly that even the worlds best LEDs by brands like Philips cannot compete with a halogen upgrade. LEDs by lesser companies just end up with with poor focus, irregular output, low performance and excessive glare. See this thread for everything you need on 2nd Gen headlights:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-ultimate-headlight-upgrade-h4-not-led-or-hid.398066/
     
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    LMFAO @RobP62 The reason i got out of this forum in the first please. The mad scientist emerges. @shanesawyer75 Good luck in your search and if you want the most technical scientific breakdown to lighting and why you shouldn't use LED unless your retrofitting then here is your guy :thumbsup: ^^^ CRASHNBURN80
     
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    There are a few decent LEDs and lots of garbage ones out there. Yes there is a science to lighting, for an LED to attempt to work properly in a halogen housing, it must attempt to replicate a halogen filament and have the cross section between emitter faces be as small as possible. Replicating a halogen is the most critical part of replacement LED design, more so than output, and not doing so will cause poor performance with excessive foreground light and loss of distance light which is why bulbs like the XHP50 don’t work correctly. These design concepts are well understood by reputable manufactures. Here is a video explaining in detail why this is important:

    https://youtu.be/WGmoDtdNqIk
     

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