Low Rust Taco - brush or not? paint or not? Fluid Film or not?

If you are painting with any paint or paintlike product that dries hard, prep to the manufacturers specs is key to the paint sticking. Without getting it 100% properly prepared, it will eventually fall off. Unless you live in the desert or somewhere that it is dry all the time. I get a kick out of those videos and ads of vehicles playing in the salt water, guaranteed major rust.

Fluid film/liquid rust prevention products do not need the prep that paint needs, they are liquid and will travel into areas that you can’t get to with paint.

It’s messy but it works.

If you want to prevent rust through and live in an area with heavy use of road salt, over time imho all the paint products will fail. The liquid products will provide total protection, if applied to all areas. If you don’t keep reapplying it to keep it fresh, rust will happen.

On my 2002, I just replaced my front bumper, both ends rusted through because the rustproofing had not been sprayed on the back side. In the middle where the spray was applied, the paint was like new and all the nuts and bolts came out easily. The paint on the nuts was like new.

 

I'll definitely concur! I just replaced my left with a brand new one, and patched my right. The right side on my Dad's truck broke off due to excessive rust. I sealed the front on mine with some rubber roofing "peel and stick" that I got from a brother-in-law. The stuff is amazing. It's pliable and has adhesive that obviously is made to resist water (roofing mat).

Left and right sides had significant dirt/rust accumulations inside.

Left before and after:


Sorry, not so good pic, but the front hole sealed with rubber:



Material used:

 

I will get some pics at some point. I am in the middle having to write some school papers and I just need a truck break.

 

i was not aware that CO has so much rust! i thought they are rust-free & no worries

is a lot of the frame paint coating left real flaky?, not sure why its not black like mine is, or is it all just brownish dirt on there?
most of mine in spots is bubbling under the paint but there are flaky parts by the spare

FF will likely turn most of that black as you wanted?

 

It apparently spent a lot of time in CA so maybe right by the beach boyi.

I think it looks pretty good honestly for a 17year old abused truck.

the frame painting is all there and is not flaky it is solid and black. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Again my only worry spots are around the leafs.

So just go with some CS or Eastwood?

 

if you wipe off that brown stuff with some WD-40 it will look more like this then?

i do not know if this is bad primer showing or rust on mine, i was told one thing believed another yada yada,
it just appeared last year
light source is halogen floor lamp

 

Top pic is just a WD-40 wipe down. Second is after a Scotch Brite rub.

 

Ok it sounds like CS needs rust to adhere to kinda like Eastwood's converter. So here is what I am thinking.

Wire brush
Apply Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on outer parts so I get that nice new looking black
FF film the inside of frame because it is cheaper than Eastwoods and I can't see inside so who cares

Does this sound like a good plan?

 

wow! you are worrying for nothing. This is surface rust really. You'll probably be dead before that frame rusts through (provided it does not see winter salt or salty water)
Don't even need to wirebrush or repaint. Just a layer of fluid film inside and out will do

 

Hey that was what I was thinking, but then every pic I posted in another thread people would be like do something about that rust?
Like I said I thought the frame looked good, but maybe I was missing something.

But if I can have piece of mind (and keep people from getting on my case ) while having it look nice for about $60 why not?

I only wish I could get my hood and roof to look nice for that cheap.

 

Well, if you can't stand it, you can repaint it, but as I said, just a layer of fluid film will do too. It's up to you really

Yeah, your frame looks very good when compared to some up here

 

Didn't read past the first page so I'll just leave this description of a frame on resto my friend and I did on his '55 Chevy. We started off by pressure washing the whole under side and wheel wells giving particular attention to those areas that are natural stress points on the suspension and steering looking for rust damage, cracks and separation of body parts. Removed all suspension, steering, driveline parts and all other parts associated. Took the brake parts off. Pressure washed the inside of the frame with a 360 degree attachment and wand. Scrubbed the underside with hot soapy water, let dry to see whatever else needed attending to cleaning/degreasing-wise. Cleaned up areas missed and then pressure washed the underside one more time, air sprayed dry and let dry for a week. Sprayed the inside of the frame with POR15 prep along with those other hard to reach areas first, then sprayed the entire underside and wheel wells followed up with POR15 rust converter and sealer. All other removed parts were powdercoated according to overall pre-planned color scheme. All bolts/screws/nuts converted to 316 stainless unless strength called for gr8. If steel bolts used, heads were painted with POR15 top coat after installation. All bolts had anti-seize applied wherever possible except in areas where it would negatively affect performance of the parts being installed.

From this you can take bits and pieces from the description and adapt to your personal needs.

Hope this helps.

 

I see, I see...

What is that stuff on the left, sticking to your frame? Looks like an old layer of paint

But then that bubbling area in the middle, it is strange because it looks like rust but it is bright red underneath... and rust is not bright red

You sure the frame wasn't repainted in the past?

 

IMHO this roofing stuff will loosen up over time and then will hold moisture under the loose bits and will rust through , it would be better to scrape off the flakes and spray heavily with FF.

 

Get some biodegradable motor oil and a garden sprayer. Get a can of red wheel bearing grease and a foam brush. Paint the frame with grease where ever you can reach and spray the rest with oil. Also spray oil into the drain holes on the body panels. Do this once every year or two and never worry about rust again.