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Receiver hook vs receiver shackle?

Discussion in 'Recovery' started by ZKH, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. Jun 24, 2020 at 6:10 PM
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    cwadej

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    translates exactly.

    Have you seen "how not to highline" on youtube? he breaks tons of gear to test various gear and set-ups. He made a table with a winch a block to get like 40,000 lbs force. uses load cells and such.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQvq-0fss4lNrmIz7gcPLtQ/videos
     
  2. Jun 24, 2020 at 9:37 PM
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    I’ve seen some of those videos yeah.

    I actually get to do lots of rope system testing for work.
     
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    ^ exactly

    cheap and recovery gear are not two things that should go together. People underestimate the forces at play and the loss ratings. Just because you can connect 2 things, doesn’t mean you should

    id also recommend books or classes to learn how to do things the proper and safe way

    https://discoveroffroading.com/shop-books-courses-tours

    bob is a great resource (among others). I’ve been to a few of his sessions at the overland rally’s
     
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  4. Jun 24, 2020 at 10:01 PM
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    I do the same thing. It's just to convenient not to, and most of my recoveries have been slow and steady. I've never had a problem. I keep the pin in my center console. I do carry two D-rings and two soft shackles though for when it's a more serious situation and mostly use them when I'm using a pulley block. I wouldn't' snatch somebody out with just the hitch pin. But I've never resorted to staching someone out. It's always an easy slow pull or I go for the winch and do an easy slow winch. I've heard of the pins getting bent and stuck but don't know anyone who that has actually happened to and the pin is holding whatever adapter you stick in the receiver anyway. To each his own I guess.
     
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  5. Jun 25, 2020 at 5:38 AM
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    For the record, I was asking about receiver mounted hooks vs shackles, not about using harbor freight products. I only posted those links to present a visual presentation of what I was asking about.
     
  6. Jun 25, 2020 at 5:56 AM
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    Rated shackles will always be better than hooks.
     
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    Just the essentials and no extra fluff.
    I prefer a shackle.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM
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    Please do not use CHEAP recovery parts.. they become projectiles.. I would NEVER pull from a hook they are for TOWING. get a shackle receiver like posted above use a quality Dring or soft shackle and be done with it.. its worth the extra to not risk a life on cheap metal.
     
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  9. Jul 28, 2020 at 3:46 PM
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    To all the guys saying they use just the hitch pin this isn’t the best idea because the soft strap puts a bending force on the pin opposed to a shear force like it’s designed to take with a receiver. This is because the material of the receiver helps support the pin along its length making a much stronger connection. In shear 2 smaller forces are applied to the pin at the hole interfaces opposed to a single larger force in the center with a strap.

    This is why you can bend a pin with a strap but won’t with a receiver. Can you use a hitch pin in a pinch? Sure, but I wouldn’t make a regular habit of it.
     
  10. Jul 29, 2020 at 8:46 AM
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    good advice, especially for heavy pulls.
    towing, or light pulls (helping 2wd up hills, etc) it works great.
     

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