1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

3rd Gen Automatic Transmission Fluid Level Check DIY

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by rowsdower, May 3, 2018.

  1. Dec 23, 2020 at 5:31 PM
    #281
    Kalebscott

    Kalebscott Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2020
    Member:
    #334379
    Messages:
    22
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kaleb
    Orlando, FL
    Vehicle:
    2018 White SR 4x4
    6in rough country lift 33’s 4.88’s
    Thanks for the detailed write up it really
    helped! I was about 3/4 a quart low and felt a shifting/downshifting improvement after doing the procedure.
     
  2. Dec 23, 2020 at 5:57 PM
    #282
    GoldenBrew

    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2016
    Member:
    #205159
    Messages:
    2,722
    Gender:
    Male
    Golden, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Gen3 4X4 TRD OR AT DCSB, SC YotaWerx, 4.88's
    purchase a Scangage II. it will, when programmed, read your pan temp and converter temp, and a whole lot of other useful information. IF you are not sure that you are low, and if you have a tow package cooler - pull appropriate hose, add one qt of fluid, and pin the thermostat replace hose - or pull fill plug of the side of the transmission - add fluid, and replace plug if you don't have a trans cooled (then no need to pin of thermostat) - bring up to the mid temp of 109 - pull pan check plug and wait for fluid to flutter from a full stream - then screw back in plug - all good to go.
     
    TacoManOne likes this.
  3. Dec 24, 2020 at 1:08 AM
    #283
    gearcruncher

    gearcruncher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2012
    Member:
    #90305
    Messages:
    7,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Canadain bumper technician
    Great white North 51.0333° N, 93.8333° W
    Vehicle:
    2010.TRD.SportDCLB4x4Limited leather package
    TRD Sport Rally -5 speed automatic Limited ,Factory heated leather seats ,chrome package,Super white with front windows tinted to 35 % Dick Cepek DC-2 wheels Summer tires - Good year silent armor P265/65R17 Winter tires - Good year P265/65R17 Ultra Ice studded Illuminated 4x4 switch TRD 3rd brake light cover ($20) TRD seat belt shoulder protectors (5). ($50) TRD ...B pillar emblems ($20) TRD rear slider sticker with devil horns ( $6) TRD summer floor matts ($60) TRD steering wheel emblem ($20) TRD floor pedals .($95) TRD shorty antenna ($14) TRD front Windshield emblems ($17) TRD head pillows .($60) TRD head rest protectors TRD door scuff protection $20 TRD floor matt emblems ($40) TRD tow plug emblem . ($40) TRD cigarette lighter with LED.($35) TRD tissue dispenser ($12) TRD front bezel emblems ($9) TRD door emblems ($6) TRD lanyards($9) TRD lisence plates with TRD bolts($50) TRD fender emblems TRD center caps Part Number:PT904-35070-CC ($80) TRD cd
    ``

    Where did you find this information, I am interested to see how Aisn Sieki changed things up

    The reason Toyota removed the dipstick was because an overflow drain is much more accurate . This information is in the Toyota repair manual
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2020
    Skydvrr and mattleg like this.
  4. Dec 24, 2020 at 3:38 AM
    #284
    splitbolt

    splitbolt Voodoo Witch Doctor

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Member:
    #32761
    Messages:
    7,874
    Gender:
    Male
    NW Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD OFFROAD DCSB MGM
    https://www.transmissiondigest.com/diagnosing-an-overheating-condition/
    "One last point regarding fluid level on these units: The GM engineer told us that the biggest issue is with the dipstick itself. The design makes it very difficult to get an accurate fluid-level reading. This, in combination with the fact that the new DEX VI fluid is very sensitive to temperature changes, makes these transmissions an easy target for the overfilling problem."


    I'm sure Toyota and ATF-WS are no different.
     
    Skydvrr likes this.
  5. Dec 24, 2020 at 6:10 AM
    #285
    gearcruncher

    gearcruncher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2012
    Member:
    #90305
    Messages:
    7,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Canadain bumper technician
    Great white North 51.0333° N, 93.8333° W
    Vehicle:
    2010.TRD.SportDCLB4x4Limited leather package
    TRD Sport Rally -5 speed automatic Limited ,Factory heated leather seats ,chrome package,Super white with front windows tinted to 35 % Dick Cepek DC-2 wheels Summer tires - Good year silent armor P265/65R17 Winter tires - Good year P265/65R17 Ultra Ice studded Illuminated 4x4 switch TRD 3rd brake light cover ($20) TRD seat belt shoulder protectors (5). ($50) TRD ...B pillar emblems ($20) TRD rear slider sticker with devil horns ( $6) TRD summer floor matts ($60) TRD steering wheel emblem ($20) TRD floor pedals .($95) TRD shorty antenna ($14) TRD front Windshield emblems ($17) TRD head pillows .($60) TRD head rest protectors TRD door scuff protection $20 TRD floor matt emblems ($40) TRD tow plug emblem . ($40) TRD cigarette lighter with LED.($35) TRD tissue dispenser ($12) TRD front bezel emblems ($9) TRD door emblems ($6) TRD lanyards($9) TRD lisence plates with TRD bolts($50) TRD fender emblems TRD center caps Part Number:PT904-35070-CC ($80) TRD cd
    I was looking to hear why these transmissions build a slight pressure and can pop a conventional dipstick out ?
     
  6. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:59 AM
    #286
    mattleg

    mattleg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Member:
    #264744
    Messages:
    922
    First Name:
    Matt
    Kansas
    Vehicle:
    2020 OR DCSB AT 4WD
    They all have vents of some kind, so I am excited to see how that works as well.
     
    gearcruncher[QUOTED] likes this.
  7. Dec 28, 2020 at 7:36 PM
    #287
    TacomaVirus

    TacomaVirus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2020
    Member:
    #342341
    Messages:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Vehicle:
    2020 Cement TRD Sport
    Thanks for the info, I will check out the scan gauge. I never thought about using the cooler line to add fluid but makes sense since it returns to the pan.

    Also, I remember reading something further back in this thread about the truck needing to be in “transmission fluid check mode” or something along those lines. Is that important to this process?

    Thanks again for the help.
     
  8. Dec 28, 2020 at 7:39 PM
    #288
    Skydvrr

    Skydvrr IG: @kalopsianick

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2017
    Member:
    #229889
    Messages:
    12,647
    First Name:
    Nick
    YMH
    Vehicle:
    Black '17 OR

    You won't be able to add a quarter that way.

    Temp check is critical, in my humble opinion.
     
  9. Dec 28, 2020 at 8:49 PM
    #289
    TacomaVirus

    TacomaVirus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2020
    Member:
    #342341
    Messages:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Vehicle:
    2020 Cement TRD Sport
    I’ll go through the fill plug then, thanks for the heads up.

    Are you saying the temp check mode is critical? If so any idea how to do it on a 2020? I had no luck with instructions above.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2020 at 7:30 AM
    #290
    GoldenBrew

    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2016
    Member:
    #205159
    Messages:
    2,722
    Gender:
    Male
    Golden, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Gen3 4X4 TRD OR AT DCSB, SC YotaWerx, 4.88's
    20201229_093808.jpg
    the transmission fluid check mode is when it is in the proper temp range. I purchased a hand pump weed sprayer specifically for doing my transmission fluid items. It can be used to add fluid at the oem trans cooler into the return hose, or into the tans plug.

    EDIT: content was removed from this post to keep the focus on fluid level check and not flush and fill.
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2020
  11. Dec 29, 2020 at 8:00 AM
    #291
    Skydvrr

    Skydvrr IG: @kalopsianick

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2017
    Member:
    #229889
    Messages:
    12,647
    First Name:
    Nick
    YMH
    Vehicle:
    Black '17 OR

    Yes, u can do it but it needs to be forced in. That wasn't clear in your first post. Another important part of Temp check is the raised idle, wether or not that matter is TBD. Imo it matters.
     
  12. Dec 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM
    #292
    splitbolt

    splitbolt Voodoo Witch Doctor

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Member:
    #32761
    Messages:
    7,874
    Gender:
    Male
    NW Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD OFFROAD DCSB MGM
    Not to mention, temp mode might open/close certain solenoids or fluid circuit paths.
     
  13. Dec 29, 2020 at 9:07 AM
    #293
    Skydvrr

    Skydvrr IG: @kalopsianick

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2017
    Member:
    #229889
    Messages:
    12,647
    First Name:
    Nick
    YMH
    Vehicle:
    Black '17 OR

    Some people (ignored) don't care about your opinions mannnnn
     
  14. Dec 29, 2020 at 9:19 AM
    #294
    splitbolt

    splitbolt Voodoo Witch Doctor

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Member:
    #32761
    Messages:
    7,874
    Gender:
    Male
    NW Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD OFFROAD DCSB MGM
    Ha...joke's on them.
     
    GoldenBrew and Skydvrr[QUOTED] like this.
  15. Dec 29, 2020 at 9:41 AM
    #295
    gearcruncher

    gearcruncher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2012
    Member:
    #90305
    Messages:
    7,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Canadain bumper technician
    Great white North 51.0333° N, 93.8333° W
    Vehicle:
    2010.TRD.SportDCLB4x4Limited leather package
    TRD Sport Rally -5 speed automatic Limited ,Factory heated leather seats ,chrome package,Super white with front windows tinted to 35 % Dick Cepek DC-2 wheels Summer tires - Good year silent armor P265/65R17 Winter tires - Good year P265/65R17 Ultra Ice studded Illuminated 4x4 switch TRD 3rd brake light cover ($20) TRD seat belt shoulder protectors (5). ($50) TRD ...B pillar emblems ($20) TRD rear slider sticker with devil horns ( $6) TRD summer floor matts ($60) TRD steering wheel emblem ($20) TRD floor pedals .($95) TRD shorty antenna ($14) TRD front Windshield emblems ($17) TRD head pillows .($60) TRD head rest protectors TRD door scuff protection $20 TRD floor matt emblems ($40) TRD tow plug emblem . ($40) TRD cigarette lighter with LED.($35) TRD tissue dispenser ($12) TRD front bezel emblems ($9) TRD door emblems ($6) TRD lanyards($9) TRD lisence plates with TRD bolts($50) TRD fender emblems TRD center caps Part Number:PT904-35070-CC ($80) TRD cd
    I would be more concerned about starting the transmission pump up with a dry sump ( no oil in pan )
    Not saying anyone does it this way , but you should have at least 3 quarts of fresh fluid in the pan before engine start up .
    Spinning parts and valve bodies prefer constant lube.


    A lot of you guys are still reporting low fluid conditions ????? ....unbeleiveable
    I started this thread back in 2016
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...be-low-on-fluid-directly-from-factory.405642/
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2020
    GoldenBrew and Skydvrr like this.
  16. Dec 29, 2020 at 9:53 AM
    #296
    GoldenBrew

    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2016
    Member:
    #205159
    Messages:
    2,722
    Gender:
    Male
    Golden, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Gen3 4X4 TRD OR AT DCSB, SC YotaWerx, 4.88's
    Likely you will need hand pump regardless of which approach you use. Add excess fluid- bring to temp- remove check bolt- replace check bolt when stream becomes flutter. And pump also connects to oem tow cooler return.

    20201229_103850.jpg
     
  17. Dec 29, 2020 at 10:00 AM
    #297
    GoldenBrew

    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2016
    Member:
    #205159
    Messages:
    2,722
    Gender:
    Male
    Golden, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Gen3 4X4 TRD OR AT DCSB, SC YotaWerx, 4.88's
    @thefatkid

    ??? Does TS have a function that does this vs jumper or scangage to know when you are within temp range? Seems like jumper method would not be the preferred go to method . What other than telling you that you are within the proper temp does temp mode actually do?
     
  18. Dec 29, 2020 at 10:02 AM
    #298
    GoldenBrew

    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2016
    Member:
    #205159
    Messages:
    2,722
    Gender:
    Male
    Golden, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Gen3 4X4 TRD OR AT DCSB, SC YotaWerx, 4.88's
    Yep. And some don't believe pinning your thermostat is a good thing. Even when you live in the desert. No joke.
     
  19. Dec 29, 2020 at 10:08 AM
    #299
    Skydvrr

    Skydvrr IG: @kalopsianick

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2017
    Member:
    #229889
    Messages:
    12,647
    First Name:
    Nick
    YMH
    Vehicle:
    Black '17 OR

    Techstream can put you in temp check mode, yes.


    I never said it was a bad thing. You're silly. You don't have to be passive aggressive, you can talk to me directly. If I said something that was a mistake I have no problem admitting I'm wrong or incorrect.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2020 at 10:11 AM
    #300
    Skydvrr

    Skydvrr IG: @kalopsianick

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2017
    Member:
    #229889
    Messages:
    12,647
    First Name:
    Nick
    YMH
    Vehicle:
    Black '17 OR

    Oh shit your names nick too haha.


    Fluid Extractor, Manual, 7-1/2 in. L https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MPQ8RBG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_ud36Fb9A5YTPX


    These seem to work better than the hand pumps, I've never had good luck with those. The always leaked. Plus with this you can do power steering flushes and whatnot. It also has a scale so u can monitor the amount u add.
     
To Top