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Changing differential fluid - A step by step "HOW TO"

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by brianr, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Jul 11, 2021 at 10:54 PM
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    Hook78

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    Generally differential fluid changes are recommended every 30-60k. For some vehicle usages and conditions the recommended service interval is as frequent as every 15k.
     
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  2. Jul 11, 2021 at 10:57 PM
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    I recommend replacing all the washers. Between the front/rear diff and transfer case all but one are soft crush washers, I would consider them one time use. One of them, can’t remember which, is a flat hard copper washer, and if I had to pick one not to replace it’d be that one. But they’re cheap, why not replace them all. Bought mine from the local dealer, all in stock.
     
  3. Jul 11, 2021 at 11:00 PM
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    Huh. Every vehicle I've ever owned I try to do it once before it rolls over 100k miles. Never had an issue.
     
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  4. Jul 12, 2021 at 3:41 AM
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    that’s sort of like saying, I do my engine oil changes every 20k, never had an issue. There’s some engineering analysis behind maintenance intervals, doesn’t mean you’ll necessarily have a failure if you don’t abide.
     
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  5. Jul 12, 2021 at 8:52 AM
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    Thanks for the confirmation!
     
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    Good advice! Here's a summary of required crush washers...
     
  7. Jul 12, 2021 at 10:06 AM
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    Ah yes front diff drain plug is the big copper one.
     
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  8. Jul 15, 2021 at 2:00 PM
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    For anyone looking for the parts, it looks like they have a complete set here which I just ordered:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CJHTDVV?smid=A3T7YNU723BG3V

    The numbers match what is listed in the post.
     
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    Hey everyone, has anyone used Valvoline 75-w90 full synthetic for the f/r diff or transfer case? It says it has 4oz of LSD fluid already mixed in. Mine is a 2011 TRD sport 4x4 w/ just over 100k. Don’t think it’s ever been changed, but the truck hasn’t been used heavily.

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    That’s exactly what I used. No issues.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2021 at 3:22 AM
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    Thanks for the speedy reply! Good to know :)
     
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    chk Red Line out

    they have a wider selection of differential fluids than anyone

    few negatives for any Synth can be said changed regularly no issues

    im hi speed hi mileage so i use a different protocol
     
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    most rear ends run middle /low hundred degrees temp

    sure some might run hotter ..............maybe low on fluid

    across death valley 100mph +

    essentially not hot enuf to burn off moisture ( h2o )............... in turn

    fauna grows in the oil causes the putrid smell

    acids are mostly water based

    long term might affect the clutch pak type o diffs

    more than the gear type diffs
     
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    My pre-runner 2012 2wd has the electronic braking for slip control.

    Regular 75w90 gear oil should be fine right?

    I can’t imagine it has a requirement for LSD additive…
     
  18. Sep 13, 2021 at 7:36 PM
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    75w90 will work fine. You don’t need additive.
     
  19. Oct 10, 2021 at 4:47 PM
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    That's allot of pages about diff oil... I've dumped in just about any gear oil with all 3 Toyotas I've owned, 1988, 1994, 2003. I believe those were all limited slip aside from the 03 also having an electric/mechanical locker. Temperature in my area ranges from 0 to 100 degrees Fahrenheit. The only time I've had an issue was when I beat the ever living snot out of the trucks back when we had some land to do so. In my experience the biggest issue with a rear diff was always the breather getting clogged up and it tends to blow the pinion seal rather than the axle seals. I now drill them out larger and run a hose up high under the bed. Once it starts to lose fluid, the minute you hear the noise on the highway you know that rear end won't last much longer unless you tear into it and change bearings. They're gears, there aren't 5 clutch packs, solenoids, pumps, springs/balls etc in there like an automatic trans where I would make absolute sure I used the correct oil Toyota recommended. I always like to do things right but I've never seen any performance or weakness when using just about any gear oil I could grab. Everyone also says to never run any hydraulic oils other than John Deere OEM in their equipment, and I've run Walmart HYD + transmission fluid in my JD 500C BHL for >15 years without a single issue, I am not easy on the machine either...
     
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  20. Jan 3, 2022 at 2:01 AM
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    Looking to do rear diff, front diff and trans case fluid change on my 2011 V6 4 X 4 SR5 double cab long bed. Read a good bit of this thread and another thread on front diff and trans case.

    Few questions,

    1. Do I have the LSD on the SR5 model and if so do I need to use the LS additive if I go conventional oil on the rear diff?


    2. I was thinking of going conventional oil for all 3 cases since I read some possible issues using synthetic in the rear diff. I can use the same 75W 90 conventional in front diff, rear diff and trans case correct?

    3. Was leaning towards mobile 1 75W 90 conventional, but was wondering if anyone had better results with any other brand oil? It is my understanding Toyota doesn’t sell gear oils or I probably would have just grabbed that if price wasn’t stupid.

    4. What are you guys finding to be a good and economical pump for the transfer case and front diff that doesn’t take forever to fill the cases?

    Thanks for any tips!
    Andy
     

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