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2013 bench to 2014 bucket swap help?.

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by flyingmanx, Jul 17, 2021.

  1. Jul 17, 2021 at 11:38 AM
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    flyingmanx

    flyingmanx [OP] Active Member

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    I have been a member for a few years & a few Tacomas.
    I have been searching for 6 weeks on here about swapping my 2013 bench for a set of 2014 buckets. I bought the seats a month ago.
    Lots of posts on here that refer to the 2006 swap. Doesn’t help me much.

    I have a 2013 2 cylinder regular cab manual. It came with “nothing” !

    I have done the intermittent wipers, cruise control upgrade and now I want to install the set of 2014 buckets with airbags and have everything work correctly.


    1- It looks like the drivers seat is pretty close except for the seatbelt buckle mismatch. So it may work?
    2- Bench seat vs bucket is a completely different story. Plugs , wiring, belts and seat sensor . 10 pin plug vs 6 pin plug
    (I did get the harness& plug right down to the floor here they cut it.)
    3- I have the wiring diagrams and it looks like the auto vs manual uses a different ECM behind the dash
    4- Can anyone shed some light on this before I give up and sell the seats?
    5- Attached are some of the diagrams & my notes on passenger side differences & issues.

    any help will be appreciated.
    I am in South Berkshires, Ma

    KenK

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  2. Jul 17, 2021 at 1:44 PM
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    Your main issue is the bench seat used a different weight sensor on the passenger side compared to the weight sensors on the passenger bucket seat. It’s not a simple wiring swap and repinning of connectors for the weight sensors. You really would need to transfer the guts out of your bench into the new bucket seat for it to work right.

    I can’t offer much else beyond that. There used to be a really nice thread detailing the full bladder swap into the buckets with photos and everything but that guy looks to have since deleted his entire post for whatever stupid reason.

    here is a separate thread that at least discusses some of what guys did in your situation (2013 reg cab owners with airbag issues)
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/seat-swap-and-airbag-light-trouble.475948/

    It sounds like at least the airbag connectors (yellow) plug up just fine but the seat sensors and buckle receptacles are the primary issues.

    good luck.
     
  3. Jul 17, 2021 at 2:22 PM
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    Hi,
    I think I found all of his links & instructions with photos saved them.
    Along with the one you just posted.
    My drivers bucket looks like a direct fit except for seatbelt.
    My bench passenger side seat has a10 pin plug (9 used) the bucket has only a 6 pin connector plus the yellow plug of course
    I did find out there are to different behind dash ECM units . So I cannot use my bucket wiring. Which has 4 passenger sensors.
    That is my purpose of my post. Try to sort it out or if it is even possible.
    Thanks

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  4. Jul 18, 2021 at 1:05 PM
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    Howdy,
    After spending considerable time today looking at my 2013 driver side bench and drivers side 2014 bucket, it looks like a simple swap. Not sure why seatbelt wires on bench disappear into back of seat!
    Now the passenger side is not a direct swap. Lots of issues & difference, plus the dash ECU looks to be different from 2013 bench install to what 2014 crew cab must have had.
    And that is where I need some input and if anyone knows how to do it “properly” . Or if it can even be done without taking the complete bench harness & using it on the bucket.
     
  5. Jul 27, 2021 at 3:17 AM
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    Bench to bucket swap complete.
    2014 buckets from a crew cab into my 2013 MT regular cab is now complete.
    But not without a lot of hard work & circuit tracing. I even bought a pdf service manual & printed out the bench & bucket wiring pages then spent hours comparing the differences. My swap Is wired exactly as factory diagrams. Saves a lot of trouble later on. And all factory safety features are working as intended !
    Funny I never took a photo of bench before starting. Now I need to find a regular cab console for MT. Highly impossible!
    Only issue left Is grinding down the seatbelt plugs to fit narrower buckets receivers.
    In the end drivers side simply plug & go.
    I was able to use the passenger bucket with 6 pin plug, I spliced it into the factory 10 pin truck harness except for pin 6,7 & 8 (not needed) and the red wire has to go to an always hot 12 volt.
    This way, I could reverse the swap in under 1 hour if needed.
    No airbag alarms or removing harness from bench seat. It can be done.

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  6. Jul 27, 2021 at 3:27 AM
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    Hi,
    FYI
    Well it can be done without using the bench seat harness & bladder. Drivers is plug & play.
    Passengers side is a simple matter of splicing in 5 wires to truck harness and adding battery wire for under seat ECU .
    I am trying to find used 6 pin & 10 pin plugs and make up an adapter so it will be plug & play for the next guy.
     
  7. Jul 27, 2021 at 3:44 PM
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    congratulations

    came out nice
     
  8. Aug 12, 2021 at 10:50 AM
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    Now console is done, working on power windows & door locks.

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  9. Aug 14, 2021 at 8:20 AM
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    Finally got center console installed. Paid more to do console than I paid for the buckets.

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    Did this ever happen?:)
     
  11. Oct 2, 2024 at 4:43 PM
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    I am having some issues doing a bucket seat swap and this thread has been very helpful so far except that I hit a wall. My problem is I got 3rd gen bucket seats so none of the connectors match which I expected. Following the method above. I simply color matched the wires for the passenger seat to splice into the 10 pin connector and seems right. The driver side is way different being that it’s a 3rd gen seat and the wire colors are different. So I have nothing to go off. It’s odd because the passenger seat had matching wires but not the driver
     
  12. Apr 23, 2025 at 9:08 PM
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    hey flyingmanx! awesome write up! were you able to come up with a harness? I purchased the same setup for my 2014 taco

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