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Gardening Thread- Show me your gardens!

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Noelie84, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. Sep 19, 2022 at 2:31 PM
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    I'll ask you the same question. Will I have a full lawn to walk or something that won't make a mess?

    My main concern is the sidewalk, where people walk on. People are too stupid here and mess up everything.

    I cut my grass 1-2" tall. I'm lazy. I don't want to cut the grass every week. This year nothing grow good.
     
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  2. Sep 19, 2022 at 3:41 PM
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    What are you using to insulate the greenhouse from old man winter, if anything?
     
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  3. Sep 19, 2022 at 3:43 PM
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    Hopefully try to get it sealed up best as possible. Small heater maybe, see how it goes.
     
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    Prob not this year, i would guess. Be good to over winter it though
     
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  5. Sep 19, 2022 at 3:49 PM
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    What are your winter like? The greenhouse I had a input in designing spent around $50,000 to insulate from are winter. Insulated panels was about $20,000. Since this was a business, they had a bigger budget. They realize that they may never recoup their money back. In the end it was a learning experiment. The other idea was the underground greenhouse.

    Will the heat stay inside without escaping?
     
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  6. Sep 19, 2022 at 3:51 PM
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    When the ground is hard, Do you think I can walk on the grass?

    What do you mean by "over winter it"? I know, newbie.
     
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    Yeah you can walk on it, but best to leave it undisturbed after hydro seeding
     
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    Def not doing that. It got down to 0 last winter
     
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  9. Sep 19, 2022 at 5:58 PM
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    As others have said. It’s best to let the grad grow I disturbed until the spring of possible and then do a cut once it’s 4-6” tall again. You’re looking at seeding with 6weeks or less of growing season your yard is going to look like a 14year olds beard all patchy unless it was really well prepared. Do you want a lawn or a green patch? Put up spikes and a rope around the perimeter of your yard about 18” tall it will prevent most people from walking on a newly seeded yard. That’s my advice and it’s worth almost nothing. :D
     
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  10. Sep 19, 2022 at 7:03 PM
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    It could take up to a year or more to get a nice full lawn without patches depending on the quality of the application and how much time and effort you want to put into it. I know enough to be dangerous and I do not work in the industry. If you want a perfect lawn immediately then sod it. I would recommend some time on the internet to get your lawn care knowledge up to speed.
     
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    My problem is I have to get the snowblower out of the basement through the bulkhead doors. Then through the backyard.

    I have to walk on the grass.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2022 at 6:14 AM
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    Don't blame you.

    This greenhouse was an experiment that they tried to grow produce and plants through are winter. Produce didn't grow good. Plants did good.

    One thing they learn was the sun placement in the sky during winter months. The sun was moving in the opposite direction than the greenhouse. There wasn't much sunlight coming through the greenhouse roof. Artificial sun light was added to aid in the growing.

    This greenhouse was a one time learning experience that the owners didn't want to go through again. Maybe in the future, with a bigger budget, and a better thought out plan, bigger piece of land.
     
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    I have the stakes, the yellow caution tape. My concern is the sidewalk. People around here are idiots. They will walk on almost anything.

    The yard isn't to much of an issue. The snowblower have to come out of the basement doors into the backyard.
     
  14. Sep 20, 2022 at 6:21 AM
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    I heard it could take up to 2 years for a full healthy lawn. Watering is important for the following year plus.

    Does the sod need a lot water? I heard most people install sprinkler system or irrigation system with sod.
     
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    Sod will initially need more water than hydro seeding because the root system is already fully developed but once any grass system you choose starts to grow the water requirements will be essentially the same. Sod is not cheap, but an irrigation system is not exactly free either. They often go hand in hand because the people that make the choice of going with sod can afford it. That of course is a generalization and I am stereotyping but....:crapstorm:
     
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    Weed and feed is important. Even a good hyrdoseeding application can't take out whatever weed seeds are already in the soil that you started with. And not all soils are created equal. You cannot tell without testing what type of soil you have and how good it will be for growing grass. A good fall feeding will carryover into the spring and set up a healthy root system so your spring growth takes off once the conditions are right. We just moved into a new house with new grading and broadcast seeding with hay over the top. The lawn looks great from the driveway. Walk on it and you can see the bare patches. But I expected that. I now need to hit it with weed and feed so that in the spring the grass I want to grow does not have any competition from what I do not want to grow. I have not had a lawn for the last 20 years. The duplex we own and lived in is on ledge and I deliberately landscaped so I did not have to mow. It is a gorgeous rock scape that cannot be "bought". The new property has no native rocks on it bigger than a grain of sand. But now I have a lawn which I am still not sure how I feel about as when I was a teenager I mowed a cemetery as a summer job so I had enough of mowing. But before my divorce that property did have a nice lawn. Weed and feed made it look like a golf course fairway. YMMV.
     
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    A lot of landscapers wouldn't lay sod without an irrigation system. The landscaper told me that sod requires double the water than hydroseeding. Are tax on water is about the same as we pay for the water itself. If I use $300 in water I'll have a $600 water bill.
     
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    Does it matters what type of seeds is in the hydroseed mix? I read it maybe a mild winter, if so I'll have a great lawn next year.

    I prefer the hardscape better. If done right they are gorgeous.
     
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