Long Travel questions

Alright. I'm about to purchase long travel fenders and get this show on the road. I know long travel is gonna be a pain to maintain and am ready for what ever breaks etc.

1. I'm looking at the Camburg SUA kit and it says it can go up to 19" of travel. Accutune sells 16 inch 3 tube with 18" of travel. Would I be able to bolt this bypass in with a bedcage and that SUA kit?

2. Can't really find much information on this, can stock spindles be used for a LT kit?

3. Does anything need to custom fabricated for a LT front end without bypasses, and a Camburg SUA kit/bedcage?

If anything I'm saying is making no sense please correct me as I'm still learning about this. Thanks

 

You really don’t need 4” shocks on the back of a Tacoma. Camburg gives you the option to buy shocks with their bed cage. They probably have a good idea on what valving is a good baseline for their rear kit. As for front spindles just buy the weld on gussets.

 

1. What are you going to be doing that requires running a 4.0 bypass? Yes, you could bolt that on with a bed cage setup depending how you set up the cage and mounting locations.

2. Yes, stock spindles can be used although I reccomend welding on gussets

3. The front will be bolt on. The rear will require welding and cutting off oem mounts. Again, the amount of fabwork depends on what you plan to do with the truck.

I suggest doing more research in the long travel forum

https://www.tacomaworld.com/forums/long-travel-suspension.113/

 

I’d first off recommend against the camburg kits have heard a bunch of bad things about it and there is no way it is going to get 19” of clean travel.
the bypasses you would use with this kit to be bolt on would be either a 2.5x16 or a 3.0x16. the length of the shock is not the length of travel you will have at the wheel
Yes stock spindles will work with LT but I would recommend you get the gusseted as they are very weak stock
For the front nothing “needs” to be fabricated but you should have spindle gussets welded on and double shear the upper control are and weld on cam tab gussets
For the rear camburg kit you have to cut all the factory hangers off I’m pretty sure the camburg kit is bolt on though but you still have to weld on new spring perches and I’m not sure if the bed cage needs to be welded on

unless you are absolutely set on camburg I’d recommend to check on other brands. I have a camburg front kit and absolutely hate it. Going to end up switching to Jd fab. If you haven’t check them out already jd fab makes some really cool stuff dirt king is also really good. I have a dmz rear kit and really like it but if I had to do it all over again I’d do jd everything.

 

Installing a rear SUA kit requires a good amount of Fab work.

 

I was looking for different options and came across that. I've always read that the rear end of tacomas need the most attention to make them perform just as good.

 

I'm not necessarily dead set on any brand. However I'm pretty sure I'll go with a btf fab front end, the rear I'm not so sure. What brand do you guys recommend? Not into welding a bunch of shit, but I can do some grinding, just nothing too much if you know what I mean.

 

Based on what he has just said so far. Should we tell him to first come up with about 50k to start with and just take it to Harry?

 

Read his question wrong, thought he was asking about just the front. I'll edit

 

New LT build, trophy truck dia bypasses.....nice

 

I'll add a +1 for looking at other brands. I have the camburg sua kit, and it's been a bit of a headache. I've been running the kit for 3ish years now, and it's gotten to the point I'm just living with the headaches. The biggest problem was and still is that parts aren't square from them.
I'm looking at doing my fourth set of bushings after less than 40k. My newest plan was to chop the shackles and remake them so they're straight. Camburg finally agreed to make me a new set and see if that fixes the problem, so we will see how it goes.
I'm running the total chaos +3.5 kit up front. It's been great. Depending on how big you want to go, there's a bunch with +3.5, and I think lsk and solo make a +4.5.
For the rear end, dmz. It's a weld on kit, but Tim has everything dialed on it and can answer any question.

 

Look up jd fab. Harry one of the employees is on here and has a long thread about product development and general bs. Their sua kit doesn’t have the huge boat anchors hanging off the back of the frame like others.

 

@20tacosr5 I appreciate the enthusiasm and willingness to dive down the rabbit hole of LT, however, it's pretty clear that you've got some research to do before spending the money on parts. Dive into the LT threads and spin yourself up on the different options that are available as well as some of the work that would be recommended/required. For example, Camburg claims they can achieve 19" of wheel travel which is different from shock travel. Additionally, the largest shock you'll need for this build is a 2.5" or 3.0". 4.0" is 6100 or TT racing applications for comparison.

Sure, you can install a bolt on LT kit up front without too much welding/fabrication required but I wouldn't recommend doing so. LT typically allows you to drive the truck harder than stock so there are absolutely weak points that need to be addressed if you decide to go this route. If not, why go LT?

As for the rear, going SUA is a rather intrusive job. Fab work is required and it's not a job I would recommend a new welder tackling. To each their own if you decide otherwise but that's my opinion. To start, JD Fab has started to offer a lot of innovative products for the Tacoma that have been highly rated. Total Chaos has been around forever and have a great reputation. Dirt King makes great product and their SUA kit offers substantial travel advantages but their inverted shackles may be a concern for someone who does any crawling.

 

We offer both a Long Travel frontend and a Spring Under rear setup for that truck. The frontend can be 90 percent bolt on with the exception of limit strap tabbing. Once you start to get into UCA double shear kit, spindle gussets, bypass hoop, and alignment cam gussets is when there will be a higher level of fabrication involved. All these add ons are highly recommended and we suggest installation be performed by a skilled fabricator. The factory spindles are forged from the manufacturer and the spindle gusset kit helps further strengthen them, a gusseted spindle can handle a ton of abuse. As far as the rear goes I would advise against a 4.0 bypass, on a midsize truck we suggest 3.0 or even 2.5. The 4.0 has such a high volume of fluid the light weight of a tacoma has a hard time displacing so much fluid and moving the piston that tuning will be very difficult. No matter how hard you run you will almost never experience shock fade on a 3.0 rear bypass. We developed our spring under kit 3 years ago and have done a TON of testing, I would put our SUA kit against anything on the market.

Heres a quick installation on out LT kit

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/dirt-king-long-travel-suspension-install.555489/

And our SUA kit (keep in mind SUA with frame plate kit, notch etc is a lot of fab work and setup)

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...fabrication-spring-under-installation.730155/

Heres some photos of our Plaster City tuning trip earlier this week. If you have any questions about any of our products feel free to email our sales team at sales@dirtkingfabrication.com or 619-944-8913.

 

Thanks for all the information guys I appreciate it. As I somewhat knew there would be some fabrication needed for a LT setup, I didn't know it would be that intrusive for the rear end. Do any of you guys of shops in the California/Nevada area that would do this type of work? And for those who have sent it to a shop roughly how much did it cost you? Thanks

 

We offer in house installation via our service department in San Diego CA. Send me an email for pricing and I can get an estimate for you. ngardner@dirtkingfabrication.com


https://dirtkingfabrication.com/blogs/news/dirt-king-fabrication-service-department

 

I sent an email. Thanks!

 

If I weren't to go the LT route, what mid travel/extended travel setup would y'all recommend for the best ride off-road? Looking at the fox 2.5 performance elite or the king 3.0, but can't find much info on the kings.

 

That all depends any kit you go with will need tuning to ride "best" and if you're just going mid-travel id stay with 2.5s, 3.0s would be over kill and the shock brand doesn't matter too much I personally run and prefer kings they all have some small differences. If you really want any setup to ride well you'll most likely have to tune and mess with valve changes etc.

 

Tuning is huge. I've seen a +.5 kit destroy whoop sections with other wider rigs picking their way along