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Dual VVT-i (2010 FJC) into a Single VVT-i?

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Mach375, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Dec 9, 2013 at 9:49 PM
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    Needing to swap out my motor (bent rod) in my 2011 DCLB. I have found one with only 3,000 miles on it (!!), but the salvage yard is telling me it is incompatible. It's from a 2010 FJC, and my research tells me that the reason it's incompatible is that it has Dual VVT-i (both intake *and* exhaust), whereas all other years and models that use the 1GRFE have Single VVT-i (intake only).

    So here's my question.

    Anyone have even the slightest info on this? My research isn't bringing up hardly anything.
    Should I go ahead and see about fitting this in my truck? I assume I would need the ECM, too...?...
    Or maybe someone has a Toyota tech that knows hir stuff and is willing to talk shop?
    Maybe I could use it without connecting the exhaust adjuster? Until I can locate and/or figure out how to make it work in my Taco?
     
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  2. Dec 9, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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    Interested aswell
     
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  3. Dec 9, 2013 at 10:03 PM
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    Interested also.
     
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    This has been talked about before but i don't think anyone has tried it yet
     
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    ^^this...would like to know tho
     
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    Link? I'd like to review the discussion.
     
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  7. Dec 10, 2013 at 5:56 AM
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    Don't know if anyone has done it. But just some comments, I strongly suspect the ECU would be required at a minimum, not sure if your harness will plug up directly to the new ECU though. Also not sure if you would need the FJ's harness to make this work either. I would think you'll need to find more ECU/harness knowledge then engine knowledge.
     
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    You'll need the whole harness, and ECU. There might be different plugs from the FJ which might not used, and might cause some functionality issues or not.

    The ecu/key would have to be decoded to your truck, by Toyota.

    The engine is also a poorer design than your current one. Inherently weaker. It would seriously be a lot easier to swap in a single VVT engine.
     
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  9. Dec 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM
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    Interested to hear why the dual is weaker than the single. Whats your reasoning in this?
     
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    Less counterweight weights on the crank. Weaker ring land/ring combo.

    Can't handle the same boost as a single VVT engine, without breaking something. I think it is 5-6psi max?
     
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  11. Dec 15, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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    What about a head swap? Swapping the single for a dual and using the duals ecu and harness? Just out of curiosity.
     
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    If the heads are similar enough to bolt over, and mate flush with the timing cover. Possibly.

    Lucario Runner would know best on that. Gadget would also.
     
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    old thread... anybody ever come to a conclusion on this swap?
     
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