The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

1Banger is 50mm vertical 48.8mm wide, won't work without some modification to 1.75" size limitation.

Assuming you try to use 1B as cornering lamp?
I output setup based on your lamp mount config, ( but 1B wide beam itself is 3.7 degree aimed downward ( or it won't comply as Cornering lamp due to glare exceed above H line)

Quick mock up, but you get idea of beam coverage. Hope you can make something interesting!

I don't know how to convert mp4 to gif high res... Hope this helps!!

 

Awesome presentation… really appreciate it.

 

So now I just need to decide whether to use the 1B’ers or go with DD SSC. I think the DD may have a slightly wider beam pattern, but it’s probably the bezel, mounting hardware, and overall physical design that’ll decide for me. Then it’s hitting up the past threads for the wiring diagram.

 

Thank you for both of your inputs, it's greatly appreciated! Before I go ahead and modify the locater pin on the lens, I'll have to figure out a lower mounting location and how it will be mounted. Even with that corrected, I think they are possibly mounted too high still and will cause unwanted excess upplight at minimal lean angles. I do wish there was a fog beam pattern light like the SSC2, 2B or Stage Series 6" that could be mounted vertically for aesthetic reasons or mounting location restrictions. But I don't know how much of a market there would be for that and if it's worth developing? I know a couple SSC1's or 1B's could be used and mounted one above the other, but that would be quite a bit higher cost.

@Yoshi I, the photo's and animations you provide are absolutely fantastic!! Very good visual representation and realistic expectations on the given light and aim. I certainly appreciate those images!

 

I've searched and searched and can't find any specific information on here about how to swap the tacoma pro Rigid fog lights for something better. The stock pro ones have a smaller opening on the "mounting bracket plastic doohickey" than most aftermarket replacement lights require. I am looking for the part number for what I need to order from Toyota in order to have a normal sized opening and also how-to instructions for removal of the doohickey from the lower plastic doohickey.

 

Too bad JW Speaker doesn't offer adaptive tilt fogs like they do headlights for motorcycles. Though would be nice to have the up-tilted beam leveled as well.
https://www.jwspeaker.com/products/adaptive-led-headlights-model-8691-adaptive-2/

Might see if this seller is willing to separate theirs if they still have them. Bezel part numbers in the images.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fog-light-kit-for-3rd-gen-sr.774885/

 

I will likely be getting one of those headlights in the future. I have the OEM halogen headlight as well as a retrofitted headlight and both are not optimal for dark twisty roads. I have searched for tilt switches to make my own lean angle system using the SSC2's or another light, but I have not found a tilt angle switch that is easily angle adjustable that also advertises as vibration resistant. Not sure if a sensor like that needs to be vibration resistant, but I assume it would need to be. I probably just don't know what to search for or how much it would be? I'm sure people that deal with automation know what is needed though and if it's a reasonable cost.

 

There is a great parts thread hosted by Jeff Lange for this. I think this post has your answer:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2020-parts-list.619005/page-14#post-22162907

 

A mechanical solution like a gimbal mount would be cool, just not practical for the limited space on a motorcycle.

 

Seems like the design for these lights may have slipped your mind. He mentions in the thread that he was trying to achieve cornering lights where his light bar falls off. With this statement implied, it's clear that this is designed for off-roading only, and wouldn't matter if these have cut-offs or not. He also adds a photo of his truck off-roading. Understood that his thread was posted in a street legal thread may have been a stretch and probably not the best option for an on-road application but the context that you're taken off of this is not quite accurate for this designer's purpose.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...led-cornering-lights-35.791366/#post-28346258
Best,
Brandon

 

The design is great for the purpose used in the thread, nobody is saying otherwise including myself.

It seems there is a misunderstanding of some sort. What was being discussed was reusing that design for a completely different purpose that the OP had intended, not as a light bar supplement and not off-road, but using it on the street as an SAE cornering light tied into the vehicles turn signal circuit just like an OEM SAE cornering lights on many vehicles that activate with the turn signal.

Example of an OEM SAE corning light on a Cadillac


The design intent did not slip my mind. My comments have nothing to do with the OPs design/intent/use/thread, other than pointing out that reusing that same setup for an entirely different purpose than intended as was being discussed, as a way to run an off-road light that activates with your turn signals as a cornering light on the street would be ill-advised and unsafe. To run a cornering light on the street that activates with the turn signals like an OEM SAE cornering light pictured above, you'd need to use an SAE lamp with cut offs to not blind other drivers. Baja does not offer an SAE lamp in a 1 emitter lamp size. Morimoto and Diode Dynamics do.

 

That's a pretty good idea! All I would need is a single axis. When I did a quick search it does appear that they are quite large like you were mentioning. I have never used a gimbal so I don't really know exatly what or where to look. I'll have to do a litle more digging. Thank you!

 

Not available in an SAE optic, so not for street use but interesting none-the-less, KC just released the most powerful 1 emitter pod lamp on the market to date with their Flex Era 1. 23w, 2430 lumen, 5000k. With KCs deep pod body, it has potential to have some reasonable thermal capacity for the high power, which is typically a challenge in the more compact lamp sizes.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7yVOxsd7Ns

 

I am very interested how those would compare to the DD Laser singles. I am waiting for a tiny super spot pod.

 

Spec is showing Flex Era1 Spot beam to be about 31K Cd, It's in between SSC1 Sport Spot (50K Cd) and Pro Spot(23K Cd) It's forward facing emitter + parabolic reflector, beam character will be very much like BD S1 spot beam. S1 spot is about 17K Cd Lots of spill around center focus. Considering the size of pod and claimed power rating, it's modest output.


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Flex Era 1 doesn't look that compact though. 2.6" x 2.72" x 2.9"

SSC1 and 1 Banger is much more compact. Below is 1 Banger vs Flex Era1 size comparison. SSC1 is about same size as 1 Banger. Off topic but if you are looking for Tiny high potency spot beam, 1 Banger is very strong for it's size. 1 Banger spot is tight beam. 12x10 degree box with 6 degree high focus spot. Measured 93K Cd 15W

 

Hmm. I should post this from a personal account, but frankly speaking, the design is very familiar.

Heretic, 2014:


Rip Dark (alibaba copy), 2015:



I'm also not clear on how this "all-new" product differs from the Flex LED modular Pod that's been available since 2018. Higher power and backlight added?




Genuinely curious, I don't mean to be bashing this. KC has certainly been getting back to real design work, and I'll give them credit for some really great features like these kitted lenses. But I feel that calling this an "all-new" product is a stretch. It would be nice to know exactly how it varies from the previous Flex and older derivatives.

Sorry for OT in this SAE thread.

Paul

 

It appears update is a significant power bump. In the modular linkable form each light draws 10w by spec. The 5 light modular bar draws 50w, the 10 light modular bar draws 100w, etc, and each modular unit puts out a spec of 975 lumens. The new Flex Era 1 draws 23w w/ 2430 lumens vs individual modular unit 10w w/ 975 lumens. I haven't tried them or anything, just going by the spec sheets.

 

Welp, I could have googled a bit. KC did address this. Here's the breakdown in case anyone else is curious. It is a power increase and backlight. But it's also physically larger. So yes, it's indeed a totally new light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAG_qzeVmDQ

 

I've never messed with latching relays so maybe I misunderstood you or something, but don't you need a second input to open the circuit and turn the lights back off? How would you use the relay to turn the light on with the turn signals but still turn off automatically?