1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Diff & Transfer case fluid selection

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Thekingd93, Mar 28, 2023.

  1. Mar 28, 2023 at 4:53 PM
    #1
    Thekingd93

    Thekingd93 [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2022
    Member:
    #388715
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Vehicle:
    2020 Tacoma SR5 V6
    AMS Oil severe gear 75W-90 GL-5 or Royal Purple Max gear which is both a GL-4 and GL-5 fluid at the same time. These are my top 2 choices to use in my front and rear differential but the big question is are one or both of them sufficient for the transfer case as well? There is YOUTUBE channel called the Car Care Nut that specializes in Toyota maintenance. The GL-5 rating seems to be adequate for the transfer case but NOT a manual transmission. The manual transmission requires a GL-4 only due to the synchromesh. (Not applicable to me I have an automatic) but as far as the transfer case is concerned the Royal Purple is labeled both for GL-4 and GL-5 and the AMS gear oil is just GL-5. Toyota has a very expensive transfer case fluid that's like $80 a quart but most of what I've read points to the using the same gear oil in the transfer case as the diff.
     
  2. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:08 PM
    #2
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    924
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    I would not use gl-5 in the transfer case. As far as I know there are brass synchros, so gl-4 it is. Redline has a gl-4 75w which they recommend for TC. Redline Mt-lv.
     
    Tom997, eurowner and Thekingd93[OP] like this.
  3. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:11 PM
    #3
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink, and I know things… Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2018
    Member:
    #265097
    Messages:
    9,368
    Gender:
    Male
    Looks like Alaska
    Vehicle:
    POS Jeep
  4. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:18 PM
    #4
    Thekingd93

    Thekingd93 [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2022
    Member:
    #388715
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Vehicle:
    2020 Tacoma SR5 V6
    AMS Oil has a GL-4 fluid that looks like it should work for the transfer case.

    Screenshot_20230328-201726_Chrome.jpg
     
    davidstacoma likes this.
  5. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:23 PM
    #5
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    924
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    That would be my choice from Amsoil, but it may not meet the "or equivalent" for warranty purposes.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:51 PM
    #6
    Satchmo!

    Satchmo! Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #335375
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    The parts guy at a dealer said to use MAG 1 Gear Oil: Synthetic, SAE Grade 75W-90 GL-5 (just changed my front & rear diffs with the same stuff). He said that all they use in all 3 for changes. Was going to change my t-case this weekend with this stuff...
     
  7. Mar 28, 2023 at 5:59 PM
    #7
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    924
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    No doubt it will work in the TC. Just not what the factory uses or recommends in their manual.
     
  8. Mar 28, 2023 at 6:02 PM
    #8
    Satchmo!

    Satchmo! Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #335375
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    Ya I was kind of surprised he mentioned that all 3 use the same oil. I have a couple of qts left over and was just going to use that. Are there long term effects from using GL-5 vs GL-4 since its not factory/manual recommended?
     
    Thekingd93[OP] likes this.
  9. Mar 28, 2023 at 6:04 PM
    #9
    erok81

    erok81 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194699
    Messages:
    5,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    Imposter
    That’s what I use. And dino oil for the diffs.
     
  10. Mar 28, 2023 at 6:15 PM
    #10
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    924
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    I'm no expert, but I know GL-5 "can" potentially damage yellow metals, although most have corrosion inhibitors now to prevent that. Only other issue could be too high of lubricity which could affect synchro mesh and gear engagement.
    The manual doesn't actually specify gl-4 in this application. It just says to use their oil or equivalent. Several manufacturers have a recommended replacement in a gl-4 75w.

    Edit-. Had "does"... Should have been "doesn't"... Oops.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2023
  11. Mar 28, 2023 at 7:05 PM
    #11
    Satchmo!

    Satchmo! Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #335375
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    I should of went with my gut feeling on when the parts guy said use the same fluid as the diffs. I knew, but wasn't 100% sure that the T-case was a different fluid. Will be searching for that Redline MT-LV for this weekend. Appreciate the heads up.
     
  12. Mar 28, 2023 at 7:12 PM
    #12
    MGMDesertTaco

    MGMDesertTaco Come on, live a little...

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2021
    Member:
    #354573
    Messages:
    6,769
    Gender:
    Male
    I went with OEM fluids in the hard to open and impossible to dispense cans. Ebay has the transfercase fluid for about $55 a quart and the diff fluids can be had for around $30 a quart/can at dealers. A little expensive, but you don't have to change them that often and you don't have to wonder what if either.
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #12
  13. Mar 28, 2023 at 7:47 PM
    #13
    Satchmo!

    Satchmo! Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #335375
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
  14. Mar 28, 2023 at 7:59 PM
    #14
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    924
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
  15. Mar 28, 2023 at 8:01 PM
    #15
    Satchmo!

    Satchmo! Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #335375
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    DTaco18[QUOTED] likes this.
  16. Mar 28, 2023 at 8:27 PM
    #16
    Gmak621

    Gmak621 Łøādîñg…

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2020
    Member:
    #349537
    Messages:
    882
    Nørth Çøast
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD-ØR
    I’ve got this in both diffs and the price is right. Get it by the gallon

    FDF4C4CF-B5AC-40F3-8DDD-4B1132A4C771.jpg
     
    Thekingd93[OP] likes this.
  17. Mar 28, 2023 at 8:36 PM
    #17
    5RickB

    5RickB Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2019
    Member:
    #280316
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2023 LR TRD Off-road MT
    Sub….
     
  18. Mar 29, 2023 at 6:59 AM
    #18
    RustyGreen

    RustyGreen A breaker point guy in a Bluetooth world

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2020
    Member:
    #337468
    Messages:
    11,124
    Gender:
    Male
    sleeping in a chair
    Vehicle:
    2017 AC 4x4 Sport 6M Inferno
    Pavement Princess
    The differentials can use any common gear oil that meets specifications (75W-85, GL5) regular or synthetic. 75W-90 is commonly used, there is no cutting edge technology in there, differentials generally aren't fussy.

    The transfer case however specifically calls out a single grade 75W "transfer gear oil", a GL rating isn't specified.
    You may experience engagement difficulties using 75W-90 in colder weather.

    Though YouTube, "the parts guy" and others may recommend alternate lubricants - Toyota recommends the 75W product and it only takes a quart. I prefer to use the recommended product and call it a day.
     
    Thekingd93[OP] and tirediron like this.
  19. Mar 29, 2023 at 10:53 AM
    #19
    Williston

    Williston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2021
    Member:
    #374833
    Messages:
    1,636
    The North Woods / New England / FL600
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tacoma V6 AT SR5 4x4 DC SB Tow Pkg Entune+
    Super White Stock (99.999%) OEM Bed Floor Mat, Cargo Net, Auto-Dim mirror w/Comp and Temp. TRD Pro Grille, Uni-Filter air pump modification
    AMD (The Car Care Nut) talks about the front and rear diffs and the transfer case lube in a few videos that he has done and advises GL5 75W-90 is fine for all three. He also talks a bit on the subject of the Toyota-specified 75W transfer case oil subject at about: 7:50.

    My truck is a 2014, so the expensive OEM/Toyota $85 75w transfer case gear oil is a non-issue for me. The owners manual specifies and 75W-90 GL-4 or GL-5 for the transfer case, and 75W-85 GL-5 for the differentials, I'll likely use Mobil-1 when I do the job this spring.

    The manual also specifies GL-4 75W-90 gear oil for the manual transmission.
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2023
  20. Mar 29, 2023 at 11:12 AM
    #20
    Jackie Moon

    Jackie Moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2021
    Member:
    #354804
    Messages:
    486
    CO
    Vehicle:
    2021 DCSB OR 6MT
    Or you could get the factory spec'd oil and not rely on strangers opinions on the internet? It might help you sleep better at night too haha! Time is money and you're spending time considering something that has already been advised by the manufacturer.

    It's a $40k truck, we all know you can afford the correct oil.

    Just my two cents... and yes when I do my 30k maintenance in a couple months I'll be "splurging" for factory oil.
     
    RustyGreen and MGMDesertTaco like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top