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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. May 29, 2023 at 7:31 AM
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    From a strictly technical perspective the more ride height that you capture via moving up circlips the more downtravel you're losing. That said, 11/9 is far and away the most common assembly setup. Unless you're a travel junkie you're not going to notice that you're on 11/9 vs something like 9/7. For the layman it is still plenty of travel for what the vast majority of us do.
     
  2. May 30, 2023 at 6:46 AM
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    Order placed, can't thank you enough for all the help! I'll be sure to post up some pics here once i get everything hooked up.
     
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  3. May 30, 2023 at 9:15 AM
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  4. May 30, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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    i have tried to do my homework but maybe I’m just unable to be satisfied lol. Any other comments on this? I drive a 2013 with no modifications adding weight, on 285/70/17. Potential to add sliders and some other weight in the future but willing to address that when the time comes. 2nd gen but any comments would be appreciated. Planning on regular 600lb spring. I am basically weighing out if I should max the height and if that might effect ride quality. I have read mixed reviews about ‘topping out.’ Ultimately debating 2.5” vs 2” intended lift. Thoughts appreciated
     
  5. May 30, 2023 at 1:23 PM
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    If it were my truck I would set them up for the recommended height. The instructions are pretty good if you are stock weight still. On the street you are likely to notice the topping out on speedbumps going fast or potholes. Off-road or over rough terrain it will be very noticeable in ride and handling(traction) quality. For slower off road, it will also limit your ability to stuff a wheel as the spring will be more compressed at full stuff (the sway bar will prevent flex before this point anyways).

    IF you add weight in the future and lose say 1/2" inch you can just go back and adjust a clip to compensate. As long as you arrive back at the pre weight add height your alignment wont even be required to be redone.
     
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  6. Jun 3, 2023 at 5:36 AM
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    6112 has another happy user here.
     
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  7. Jun 27, 2023 at 3:11 PM
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    I ordered a set of Alcan springs for the rear with 2" of lift. I am looking at the 6112/5160 combo with 600lb springs but not sure what setting for the 6112s. Any suggestions to go with the 2" in the rear? I was initially thinking 9/7 but wondering if 10/8 would be a better idea. I would like to keep some rake and have an aluminum cap that is on 50% of the time. If I go 10/8 does that take out most of the preload and will cause the shocks to top out?

    This is for a 05 DCLB and I am planning to do UCAs. Rest of truck is stock.
     
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  8. Jun 27, 2023 at 3:13 PM
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    10/8 will be good.
     
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  9. Jun 27, 2023 at 3:34 PM
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    I agree with @71tattooguy that 10/8 will likely be a good move. That said, if your shell is 200lbs or greater I would probably recommend the 9/7. That way you're not squatting even when you're "loaded". I would rather be a little tail high 50% of the time vs squatting 50% of the time. Top out isn't a common "issue" on 6112s, even on the 11/9 setting so I wouldn't be concerned with that.

    Also, if you haven't sourced your 6112/5160 setup we'd be happy to help over here at Hotshot Offroad. We offer assembly services, and generally can turn out those orders within the same week. We can also help you with the UCAs as well. You shouldn't "need" them at the height level you are pursuing, but that 2.25" level is kind of our inflection point. If you are needing to replace OEM ones, need more adjustability, etc though they are nice. We can help with that too. Give us a call (406-936-0206) and we can answer any questions you may have.
     
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    Exactly!!! No top out. These are great shocks. I will run them again when needed. I’m at 6/6 1/4” spacer driver side with 650 coils and about 2” of lift with bumper and winch. Rides awesome no complaints here. FYI my ICON RXT LEAF PACK still running strong. :thumbsup::cheers:
     
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    Ok, you talked me into it, 10/8 it is. I do not have an exact weight of the topper but it is less than 150 and I told Alcan a constant 250lb payload when ordering.

    I probably do not need UCAs for alignment but its an 05 and some new bushings will not hurt so I am going to upgrade while I am at it.

    I will give you a call tomorrow morning, memario1214.
     
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  12. Jul 1, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    Billy’s add today. Rides great!

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  13. Jul 5, 2023 at 7:49 AM
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    That looks SO GOOD. Completely changes the look of the truck.
     
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  14. Jul 5, 2023 at 8:08 AM
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    I assume 6112s are still considered "rebuildable"? I'm at about 100K on my second set - time for a new set!

    @memario1214 Have you had any luck getting any from Bilstein without springs? I run 700 lb springs, and really don't need another new set of 600 lb springs sitting in the garage.

    Also, do you carry 5165s? I'm doing a shock relocation in the rear, and will need some longer shocks. I plan to use Bilsteins with the reservoir.
     
  15. Jul 5, 2023 at 8:23 AM
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    6112s are considered NON-rebuildable. I have heard anecdotally of a couple of places in Cali that will do rebuilds on them, but I have never pursued or really looked into it.

    I haven't had any luck on getting just shocks yet, no. I still have my order out there from a couple of weeks ago and it is in an "awaiting update" status. I don't want to tip them off and raise the alarm by inquiring either. All I need is for it to go through and for them to send me one. Then I can use it as leverage to make them send me more :quickdraw:. That said, if you need new ones there's no sense in waiting... It's dumb, but it is what it is. If you want to order a set and have me hold back the springs I could probably make that happen. Or I could just send you a kit and you dispose of them locally. Dumb, I know.

    As for the 5165 we sure doo! Not something I regularly keep on the shelf, but no problem getting a hold of them once we figure out what you're after.
     
  16. Jul 5, 2023 at 8:42 AM
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    Awesome!

    I'll let you know when I'm ready for the 6112s - I wouldn't wait to order for no springs, just thought I'd ask.

    Both these projects will/should happen in the next couple of months, so I will let you know.

    Thanks.
     
  17. Jul 5, 2023 at 8:43 AM
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    No sweat, we'll be here!
     
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    I’d recommend going with 7100 14” short bodies if you want to stick with Bilstein for a shock relocation. 255/70 valving is what I found works well.
     
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    Thanks!!heck yeah! It sure does!
     
  20. Jul 6, 2023 at 10:20 AM
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    What do like about the 7100s over the 5165s?

    They are not that much more expensive, and rebuild-able. Looks to be a good option.
     
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