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Too much rake

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Trapper1014, Jun 1, 2023.

  1. Jun 1, 2023 at 6:44 AM
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    Trapper1014

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    Good morning everyone. I recently installed an iron Man stage 1 lift kit on my 2019 Tacoma off-road. Seems like a really solid lift kit the only issue I am having is I made the mistake of getting heavy dutyIMG_20230530_164407.jpg leaf springs for the back. So there is too much rake in the rear I was wondering if anybody had any luck removing leaves to lower the rear
     
  2. Jun 1, 2023 at 6:46 AM
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    Leave it for a while,throw some weight in the back and it might settle down .
     
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    Youre going to want to take out 2 leafs if you dont have any weight or plans for any weight back there. Its not going to settle enough to look right.
     
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    Yeah, if not hauling heavy, those are probably a bit much, but as @Hunter gatherer said, they will settle a bit. And hauling a load around will help that happen quicker.
     
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  5. Jun 1, 2023 at 7:25 AM
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    Screenshot_20230601-103223.jpg Which 2 leaves should I remove?these are the leaf springs I bought. there are 6 main leaves and 2 overload.one other note is I will hopefully soon have an ARE utility cap on the truck which is probably around 200lbs plus tools maybe 400 total
     
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  6. Jun 1, 2023 at 7:38 AM
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    Where are you located? I'll trade you a medium load for the heavy load!
     
  7. Jun 1, 2023 at 7:45 AM
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    This actually sounds like a reasonable idea. Unless hauling heavy, that HD leaf pack is only going to degrade the OPs ride quality.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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    I'm in Rhode Island. But I am not interested in a trade. Thank you for the offer though
     
  9. Jun 1, 2023 at 1:39 PM
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    Thank you for the reply I did put some weight in the back about 300 lb I'll give it a few days anyways but I still think I need to take at least one leaf out thanks again
     
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    I wouldn’t take any leafs out. It will drive pretty rough at first but will settle over time. Mine took about 2 months before they settled a bit. Still a rough ride if I’m completely empty but with a full bed and RTT on it, rides like a Cadillac.
     
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    I thought rake had to do with the steering angle on the front suspension.
     
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    Positive rake of a vehicle is rear higher than front. Negative rake is vehicle lower in rear than front.
     
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    Don't give it a few days.

    Many people report needing to put on a good thousand miles or so until they really settle.

    Look up "stinkbug" and you'll see tons of people posting their truck with the rear end way up after a new leaf pack.

    They'll settle, it'll just take a bit.
     
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    Honestly, with a real HD leaf pack, it may settle some, but here's my rear end after years on a set of Deavers, and several hundred extra pounds in the rear of the truck. You should see it today without the Swingout.


    upload_2023-6-1_14-46-25.jpg

    EDIT: Hate to say this, but it's probably the wrong leaf pack for your truck. Unless you are planning to haul around 1000lbs regularly, and didn't mention that.
     
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    not a perfect pic, rear is cut out, but look at angle of rocksliders to ground, hahaha


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  16. Jun 4, 2023 at 7:45 PM
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    The leafs are made to work together. Unless manufacturer has specific leaf removal option, could be very bad ride.
    I did same thing with Deavers and called hoping to remove one of nine leaves. They said no.
    I changed to new set.
     
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    I actually don’t think it looks too bad but I kinda like rake. Put some bigger tires on, it’ll fill the wheel well a bit and make it less noticeable. Plus as others have said it’ll probably settle a bit.
     
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    Hell yeah, throw some Mickey Thompson's on that bitch!
     
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    Leave it alone. IMO rake is good , never understood the level look.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2023 at 10:58 AM
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    I ended up taking two leaves out. Dropped 1.5 inches. Also put the ECGS bushing in the front diff

    IMG_20230604_141022.jpg
     
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