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This is my build plan. Looking for input.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by guaco.supreme, Feb 9, 2024.

  1. Feb 9, 2024 at 9:35 AM
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    guaco.supreme

    guaco.supreme [OP] Fk around and find out

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    I've been trying to research for a couple weeks now to determine the best route for this build, but I'm finding it difficult to keep track of everything I find across multiple sites while also filtering out all of the ash and trash talk that seems to be in abundance in the Taco crowds, so I'm hoping by posting this I can receive some helpful feedback and keep everything in one place.

    I have a 2020 TRD Pro. Goal for this truck is capable of multi-day cross-country and BDR trips while maintaining as much drivability as a daily as I can. Occasionally tow a ~2000lb off-road squaredrop. If it's just me on a trip, then I sleep in the bed, if the fiancé is with then we drag the trailer. It will see plenty of mountain use, both with and without the squaredrop. I swap between the cap and tonneau cover depending on what I'm doing. Daily will be tonneau cover, trips will be cap.

    **Note: I do want to maintain as much fuel economy as I can. Yes I understand its a truck, yes I know your truck gets 12mpg and you're ok with that, no I'm not going to buy a Prius. There is nothing wrong with trying to keep as many mpg's as you can while still achieving your use goals.

    Current:
    -275/75r16 AT4Ws
    -OTT
    -Leer cap / cheap tonneau cover

    Goals:
    -BodyArmor 4x4 Hiline front bumper
    -10k winch (model not decided yet)
    -Westcott Designs sliders (mainly so the fiancé has something she might be able to use with her short little legs)
    -Westcott Designs TRD Pro front 1.5" lift
    -RXT option #3 leaf packs
    -Custom bed drawer/sleep platform (estimate 175lbs empty)
    -Leer 100XR cap
    -Receiver mounted fuel can storage

    Maybe goals:
    -Size up to a skinny 33
    -Regear or Magnuson
    -Upgrade cap to Smartcap EVOa
    -Prinsu or Cali Raised cab roof rack, if I find I need it.

    Unkowns:
    -Will the TRD Pro Fox suspension be enough when adding the weight of the bumper and winch, or should I opt for the Eibach or ToyTec springs instead of the Westcott lift? I do want to retain the Fox TRD suspension until it's time to replace it, then I might swap it all out for something else.
    -Taking into consideration I will tow, which is better results for the price, regear of Magnuson? It sounds like 4.88s will be too much for 32's and even 33's, but theres no 4.56's for 3rd gen from my research.

    Is there anything else to look into or consider?
     
  2. Feb 9, 2024 at 10:19 AM
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    gudujarlson

    gudujarlson Well-Known Member

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    Your profile says you live in Minnesota. Are planing to go out west for these trips?

    If not you probably don’t need half that stuff, because you can’t get very far from civilization in a truck. Our only wilderness area only allows canoes and kayaks. You are basically restricted to (mostly well maintained) roads for long distance trips in Minnesota. There are however some off-road parks with challenging trails, but you cannot camp in them.

    There is cool sounding border to border route that is in the works, but it will be roads. Here is the description:

    • The route will consist entirely of roads currently open for public use, including state and national forest roads and township, county, and state roads. Many of these roads feature dirt, gravel, or other rugged surfaces.
    https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/input/mgmtplans/touring/index.html

    A 2wd Corolla with all-season tires likely could do the route.

    Depressing I know.

    Personally I would stick with the basics I need to go camping, which for me is a ground tent and sleeping bag. I know that’s not everyone’s cup of tea.

    In any case, you can maintain some fuel economy by sticking to a low rolling resistance tire, i.e. one with a size that starts with a P. Stay away from LT tires. Also keep in mind that an all-season tire will also generally be more efficient than an all-terrain or mud-terrain.
     
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  3. Feb 9, 2024 at 10:27 AM
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    eurowner Duke Sky

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    You will need stiffer springs for sure. (I don't know 100%) if your Pro coilovers with the Westcott lift will take a heavier spring. Might look at 6112 or 8112, Kings, Fox, etc coilovers that will take a heavier spring.
    Toyotec, no.
    Eibach, Yes!
     
  4. Feb 9, 2024 at 10:58 AM
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    guaco.supreme

    guaco.supreme [OP] Fk around and find out

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    95% of our trips are out west. For example, we are looking to do the WY BDR this coming fall, almost 1000 miles off road and rather remote. AdventureTaco did a good write up on it, https://adventuretaco.com/trip/wybdr/ . We also do multi-week trips of bouncing from place to place, park to park, and often times find boondock places to crash at forthe night along the way. Thats usually with the trailer, but I'll also do some solo runs as well, so having a quick and easy place to crawl into and sleep that doesnt need to be set up and doesn't matter if it's flat for a tent is ideal.

    I am from MN, but most of MN doesn't interest me, mainly because you can't really get away from civilization.


    My understanding is the Eibachs will net you around 1.3" lift, but I'm not 100% sure if they are a higher rate for increased weight capacity. Waiting to get a hold of Eibach for details.
     
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  5. Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12 AM
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    eurowner Duke Sky

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    Good catch! :thumbsup:
     
  6. Feb 9, 2024 at 11:17 AM
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    In a truck, no. In a canoe, yes. The Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness is a great place to adventure.

    I have thought about taking my truck out west to the mountains and/or desert. I think I would enjoy that. There is a lot of hiway in-between though.
     
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  7. Feb 9, 2024 at 11:32 AM
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    guaco.supreme [OP] Fk around and find out

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    One of my fav options for heading out west is stopping in the badlands for an overnight. It breaks up those highway miles and is always fun to run around. Then from there if heading southwest theres plenty of places to stop in Colorado. If heading northwest the Bighorns in WY are freaking awesome. Lots of area to explore there.

    Long term plan is to be moved out west in the next 3-5 years, but for now we just put the miles on.
     
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  8. Feb 9, 2024 at 11:38 AM
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    guaco.supreme [OP] Fk around and find out

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    Last few pages of this thread lead me to think I'd be fine with just the springs. If I find I need to make up a little loss in height I can add the Westcott lift, or swap them out entirely and sell the Pros to make up for the added cost of new suspension. Start small and work up from there I guess.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...in-a-spring-upgrade-for-front.643212/page-111
     

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