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04 Tacoma MT really stiff when cold

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Darkstar21, Jan 12, 2021.

  1. Jan 12, 2021 at 2:24 PM
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    Darkstar21

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    When cold I can hardly get it in gear. After driving for a little it shifts pretty smooth. Any ideas why this is and what I might do about it? Thanks for any help!! Just bought the truck a few days ago.
     
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  2. Jan 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM
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    Change out the fluid to start.
    Check your clutch fluid- probably black. I’d drain it and don’t forget to bleed it.
     
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  3. Jan 12, 2021 at 2:31 PM
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  4. Jan 12, 2021 at 2:31 PM
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    What type of fluid does it use? Is this difficult to do?
     
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  5. Jan 12, 2021 at 2:41 PM
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  7. Jan 12, 2021 at 4:35 PM
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    Define Cold ??

    To me Cold is below zero F to some 50 degrees F is bitter cold
     
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  8. Jan 12, 2021 at 4:38 PM
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    Just purchased the truck ?
    Got any warranty ?
     
  9. Jan 12, 2021 at 4:43 PM
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    It has been in the 30's. Bought as is, no warranty.
     
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  10. Jan 12, 2021 at 4:57 PM
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    Any service records come with the truck ?
    If not , check out whats been done to the truck at the dealer and what TSB,s and recalls are needed
    This way , you get a track record of what was done
    https://www.toyota.com/owners/home. You will need your vin # handy
    We are for a looking clutch job , clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder replacement .
     
  11. Jan 12, 2021 at 5:09 PM
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    I was told the master and slave cylinder were just replaced but no records. Under the hood it does appear to be new. I'm hoping to fix it up and get everything mechanically sound but I don't have much money. I did get the frame inspected/undercoated and it is solid, so that is awesome.
     
  12. Jan 12, 2021 at 5:19 PM
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    Alright , thanx for letting us know the clutch master and clutch slave are both new .

    Go to the website below and pick out your shifter bushing
    https://www.marlincrawler.com/transmission/shifter-parts/heavy-duty-sockets
    If you can wait until you get the shifter bushing , you can fill your transmission with new fluid from the top
    Once the new shifter bushing and fresh fluid have been installed , road test and get back to us
     
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  13. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM
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    I changed the fluid and the problem is still there. It's actually starting to get worse I think.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:47 PM
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    Fk that, it was 69F and hard nipple chilly today
     
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  15. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:51 PM
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    >3k into a 5 lug and it aint even LT
    They all are stiff when cold, least the majority of ours are. I live in az and even in the 30s it's noticably stiffer if I don't let it heat up for 5 10 min. I just start the truck and let it sit in the winter time.
     
  16. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:52 PM
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    >3k into a 5 lug and it aint even LT
    I know my shifter bushing is shit bc it pops out of gear when hitting a bump engine breaking, and fluids need to be done on mine. However, many others have all said it's common
     
  17. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:53 PM
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    to anyone with MT knowledge, could he have tried a thinner fluid?
     
  18. Jan 21, 2021 at 4:54 PM
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    >3k into a 5 lug and it aint even LT

    @Wulf has recommended redline to fix this before, but if he's got fresh fluids already idk if brand will help
     
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  19. Jan 21, 2021 at 7:23 PM
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    It's more than a common inconvenience. I can't even put it in gear at first. Have to put it in second when it's not running then drive around slow for a while. It grinds and is extremely hard to shift for quite a while. Getting hard to even drive. A friend said to bleed the line since the slave cylinder was just changed. Gonna give that a try next I suppose.
     
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  20. Jan 21, 2021 at 7:28 PM
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    The transmission fluid definitely needed changed though. It looked really crappy and smelled horrible. I put Mobile one 75w90 in it. That's what was recommended and it said good for cold weather.
     
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