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100 octane

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by rangejeep, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM
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    chris4x4

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    The 12 lb.-ft. of torque is a good gain, and one I can most assuredly feel. :)
     
  2. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:52 AM
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    Now that would make it worth the expense. 91 octane only costs 4% more than 87 here. If I'm getting 17 and I can get 18 that's about 6% better mileage for 4% more cost.

    So why doesn't Toyota reccommend 91 octane?
     
  3. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:55 AM
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    Glad you corrected my misstatement. The real question is if the 4-cyl. would benefit much from 91 octane.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:56 AM
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    I think they do on some of their vehicles, for instance their FJ's. Same motor and all be I heard they reccommend 91. Not sure why they don't for the Tacomas.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2008 at 9:19 AM
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    It is "recommended for best performance" on the Tacoma. Otherwise, the timing is retarded (like some of my friends when they drink).
     
  6. Sep 7, 2008 at 9:47 AM
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    As far as the lead thing goes for the motorcycle, i know many stores like advance and autozone sell a lead sub. for older engines like that.

    With aviation grade fuel...im not sure about n/a engines (i have only flown two types of planes), but the n/a plane that I flew (a 172) took 100LL octane fuel, and from what i understand it had a 360 cubic inch 4 cylinder that generated 190hp...cant remember what torque was.....and if i remember correctly about the rpms....it maxed at a little over 2000, so I think he is very correct about the aviation fuels....

    However, on a turboprop aircraft, this may be a little different as they have much higher rpms (im talking in excess of 30k)...however the compression ratio on at least the only one im familiar with (T-34) is 7:1....so im not really sure how that would affect fuel in terms of octane rating other than that we use a very high octane fuel (commonly we use JETA or JETA1).....I believe that alot of this has strictly to do with altitude though.....as vehicles change alt. very slowly when driving, it is nothing for a plane to lose/gain a few thousand feet in under a min.(depending on the type of plane)....this i think is where the big thing is about the octane rating comes in.



    sorry if i kinda ran away with that topic....i just really like to talk about planes:D
     
  7. Sep 7, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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    oh, whatever
     
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    Damn! I read that entire 520 page owner's manual and somehow I missed that.

    I'm still running on that "free" tank of gas the dealer gives you, so I imagine that's just 87 octane. In a couple hundred miles it'll be on empty & I'll try the 91 octane. That's the best normally available around here.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2008 at 10:37 AM
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    waste of money IMO
     
  10. Sep 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM
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    Since a turbo prop aircraft is basically a turbine with a gearbox on the end driveing the prop, Jet fuel is the only fuel that can be used in one. They have no pistons, so they dont have "Pinging" issues.
     
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    Why else would the timing be retarded? Obviously, if the ECU retards the timing, which it will with 87, you will have less power. And it was in earlier model year manuals. Nothing changed with the engine soooooo.............

    Here's a chart that backs up my statements:

    PremVsReg_1189358f487a906d62c32ed46acfe65991b88894.jpg
     
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    Wilson, I have TONS of respect for you, and I enjoy reading your posts, but that one makes my head hurt. :eek:
     
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    (PSSSTT! It's a joke)
     
  15. Sep 7, 2008 at 12:45 PM
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    Whew! I was holding my monitor at different angle trying o figure it out! :D
     
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    This is my first Tacoma, so I'm totally unfamiliar with what Toyota has done in the past.

    I am familliar with the concept of timing optimized by the ECU, so I'm not surprised that Toyota would do this.

    I'll figure out a bit more about this truck once I get an actual manual for it. the '06 manual (newest I've found online so far) is going to take another decade to download.
     
  17. Sep 7, 2008 at 2:34 PM
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    LOL. There have been no changes to the Tacoma drive trains up to 08. They say the '09's are the same as well, but the 1GR-FE in the '09's has a different exhaust header, and an extra, what looks to be an O2 sensor in the middle of them. Not sure if this is the only change, but its all I have found so far.
     
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    You mean it has O2 sensors both ahead and after the Cat?
     
  19. Sep 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM
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    It has an O2 sensor right off the cylynder bank in the manifold, another before the cat, and one after the cat. Mine has an O2 before the cat in the exhaust pipe, then 1 after the first cat.
     
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