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1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Speedytech7, May 31, 2018.

  1. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:40 PM
    Speedytech7

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    Your state is gonna have beater killer gas soon, things older than 2001 are not gonna like the E15 you guys voted to introduce. I think E10 will still be around too, but the average person might not know to look out for it.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:41 PM
    Empty_Lord

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    oh god e15. why must they do this.
     
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    Yeah, it's okay here but I don't chance it especially with the high humidity levels right now. Ethanol is hygroscopic and picks up water molecules as it lingers.
     
  4. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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    for having a refinery in almost my backyard, our gas is shit here. i have to drive 1 hour to get ethanol free
     
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  5. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:43 PM
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    It's gonna be cheaper and ethanol fuel has less harmful emissions. But mostly just to subsidize corn growth for absolutely no reason. Either way, E15 is out of tuning range for lots of stuff, gotta run a lot more of it since ethanol is less volatile than gasoline and many injection systems wont have the extra headroom
     
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    i can tell you right now these trucks dont take well to it. hell my 06 avalon doesnt like it, and thats a pretty modern injection system
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:45 PM
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    I don't know of any refineries in WA, I'm sure there's at least one. Our gas is almost as cheap as Idaho's where I live and I have an ethanol free pump very close, only like a mile
     
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    lol i get a 30 cent increase in price if i drive 10 minutes into illinois. BP has a massive refinery near me
     
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  9. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:47 PM
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    Gas is like 30 cents more in Vernal than it is in SLC, and then WY is like 30 cents cheaper than SLC

    Something like that
     
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    e15 is more resistant to burn. these old cars are not designed to run on it. it kills fuel mileage and performance
     
  12. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:50 PM
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    I explained it earlier. Ethanol has a different stoichiometic point. The car tunes for it wrong because it doesn't understand that it is less volatile fuel
     
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    Those big words are the reason I get paid the big bucks lol
     
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    ok now explain to me how to diagnose a can bus system short.
     
  15. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:53 PM
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    I'm excited the Z (after the new ECU) will be the first thing I've owned with CAN bus. So many peripherals you can run with just those two wires.
     
  16. Sep 12, 2019 at 8:54 PM
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    its a neat system. absolute nightmare to deal with sometimes. but a simple system when you dont overthink it.

    dealing with a BEAN system toyota use to use was more of a pain in my opinion
     
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    a breakout box was the best thing i ever bought. FYI
     
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    We dont fuck with can bus. We use different systems for monitoring and controlling. Well i guess it is a Can system. It uses a single controller to monitor and control every aspect of the system.
     
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