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2 Gen Coilovers-Which?Why?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by socal4x, Apr 8, 2011.

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Coil Overs, Which, Why

Poll closed May 8, 2011.
  1. SAW 2.0

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Fox Allpro 2.0

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  3. Icon 2.5

    29 vote(s)
    93.5%
  4. Radflo 2.0

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  1. Apr 8, 2011 at 6:17 PM
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    socal4x

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    Made the decision to go with coilovers, I know I am probably beating a dead horse but figured I would provide an update thread for those that have been running coilovers for a while.

    For a mild <2" front lift, light off road:

    SAW 2.0s (had these on my 1 gen)

    Fox (allpro) 2.0s

    Icon 2.5 (no 2.0 I guess)

    Radflo 2.0s

    Which one and why? Do you have regrets one way or the other?
    Do these all need UCAs if only lifting 2"?
     
  2. Apr 8, 2011 at 9:30 PM
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    chris4x4

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    @ 2" you shouldnt need UCA's to correct the alignment. Personally, I think the choice should include Kings, but, given what you list, Choose Fox if you like a progressive dampened suspension, or Icon if you prefer Digressive dampening.
     
  3. Apr 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM
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    ^ this ang I have personal experience with the radflo's, they rode great at 2" and even 2.5" lift. but If you plan going any higher I would rec. a 1/4" top plate spacer.
    I switched to Icon ext. travel and they ride great! even at 3" lift. and they take bump and pot holes alot better.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2011 at 9:40 PM
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    Kings...but they are not on your list! So Icon then
     
  5. Apr 8, 2011 at 11:17 PM
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    Icon FTW, but Kings should be on the list they are also a great shock.

    I dont think you need the UCA's but if you cant get your alignment where you want it, then you will.
     
  6. Apr 9, 2011 at 9:40 AM
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    Thanks! I didn't think to add the Kings, as I thought they may be too expensive...But worth the price it seems since it is mentioned by all.

    Radflo seems to be cheapest, but maybe a reason for that?
     
  7. Apr 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM
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    I think Kings, Fox, and Icon are about the same price, i havent heard much about radflo's though.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2011 at 10:57 AM
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    Kings, Fox, Icon

    Which color do you like better?
     
  9. Apr 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM
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    Black and Blue FTW!! :)
     
  10. Apr 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM
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    Not that easy. Fox & King are progressivce rate CO's, while the Icons are Digressive.
     
  11. Apr 9, 2011 at 4:25 PM
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    I used ToyTec ultimate coil-overs @ 2.5" and although not needed I replaced the UCA's with DSM's. Very happy with this setup
     
  12. Apr 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM
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    Chris, could you explain a bit what you mean by this? I am a bit confused.:confused:

    I am not at all familiar with the COs in question here, but when I hear "progressive rate" I think of a non-linear spring (no uniform spacing of coils) that gets progressively stiffer with deflection.

    As far as i know, "digressive" refers to the damping (shock), not the springs, and basically means the damping rate changes with speed or length of travel.
     
  13. Apr 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM
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    Progressive dampening progresively gets more firm as the shock shaft Velocity increases. Digressive shocks have more firm dampening at lower shaft velocity, and softer dampening at higher shaft speeds.

    More info:

    http://www.circletrack.com/techarticles/shock_absorber_shock_dyno/index.html

    http://autopitstop.net/car-improvements/progressive-dampers-vs-digressive-dampers/
     
  14. Apr 9, 2011 at 10:15 PM
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    ^^^ So judging by those articles (all new to me) for everyday driving you want digressive dampening vs progressive?
     
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    I thought it was the opposite.
     
  16. Apr 9, 2011 at 10:25 PM
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    I really have no idea, it's all new to me
     
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    It basically all depends on where you want the ride to be softer... high speeds or lower speeds.

    Say Icons with digressive are going to be more firm at lower speeds but will work better at higher speeds. Its the opposite for kings and fox with the progressive dampening

    Edit: someone correct me if im wrong, this is how i see it
     
  18. Apr 9, 2011 at 10:51 PM
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    What's high speed though?! (like mph wise) or what is meant by high speed?
     
  19. Apr 10, 2011 at 6:32 AM
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    I think it is the velocity of the shaft of the shock as the spring deflects. A fast displacement(like from hitting a bump at high mph) vs. a slower displacement (like from hitting the same bump at a lower mph).
     
  20. Apr 10, 2011 at 6:35 AM
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    ^^^ oh okay, so typical drving is around 45-50mph (mine anyways) so like would that create a fast velocity or would it be considered slower?!

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