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2005 - 2016 Archive Garage Premium Shackle Flip Lift Kit

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. Jun 28, 2017 at 3:01 PM
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    All my previous trucks did not have bolts. Nor did my CJ. I broke my leaves on my Ford dually than I can count, until I had custom springs made and made traction bars. I have a hate/hate relationship with leaves spanning almost three decades.
     
  2. Jun 28, 2017 at 3:20 PM
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    Oem springs are different than aftermarket leaf packs. The spring clamps are used to fine tune the springs on aftermarket packs. Just like most aftermarket parts the tools used to build and design the parts are on a much smaller scale than oem manufactures. Toyota is gonna make far more springs then a small spring shop in Santa Fe Springs, so their method of manufacturing will be better adapted to making multiple different sets of springs for different vehicles, not a million springs for a single vehicle. I don't see the leaf spring clamps being a poor design. It's just an issue that comes about from using a leaf spring in a configuration that it was not initially designed to be used in.

    As far as your leaf spring issues go it just sounds like bad luck and possibly asking for oem leaf springs to do something they weren't designed for in the case of your dually. I've worked on a lot of other people's leaf spring trucks over the years and really only seen a handfull of broken leaves all of which were from heavily used desert trucks. In which the leaf springs should be considered a consumable
     
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  3. Jun 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM
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    Stuff and things... maybe a little rust
    I just got a set of the new EL096R Dakars and they have gone to something similar to this, the bracket is tapped on one side and bolt inserted from the other. Unfortunately since they are not built for L or R side the bolt head will be sticking out on one side. I will have to check to see if the head will protrude in toward the gas tank but I think this may be the tapped side with the bolt only screwing in to the edge of the bracket so it is flat.

    Edit: Looking at a picture I have it looks like the bolt heads will face outboard on the driver side on the new ones so there is nothing but the bracket itself that would rub.
     
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  4. Jun 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM
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    These are the ones that look like military wrap @stairgod
     
  5. Jun 28, 2017 at 7:40 PM
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    What mine look like
     
  6. Jun 28, 2017 at 8:11 PM
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    First, let me just mention that I was making the shackle flip before I owned a Tacoma.
    I also needed to experience the stock truck for a bit, so I can speak from experience with modifications.
    So I just installed the Archive shackle flip with my stock 3+1 springs (which were new from Toyota along with the frame before I bought it only 1,000 miles) because I wanted to see how it worked with stock springs before I switched to the Deaver SUA.

    An unexpected result happened. The lift was close to 2" (4" shackle and brackets in foremost position).
    I noticed that after, the stock springs have some POSITIVE arch with the flip. With stock hanger, they were definitely negative arch.
    As for flex, it seams pretty good. In the pics, there was still 2" left on the shock travel.

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  7. Jun 29, 2017 at 9:13 AM
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    3/8"-16 thread x 3.5" long button head with c-nut. Nice and low profile with no edges to catch. Now I need to find some thin aluminum to stick on the gas tank..

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  8. Jun 29, 2017 at 9:18 AM
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    Nice job, and the tank plate is a good idea, should be able to RTV a thin piece of alum or stainless right on the plactic tank
     
  9. Jun 29, 2017 at 9:50 AM
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    So would you recommend this setup (i.e. your shackle flip with stock springs) for others, or was it more just to test it out?
     
  10. Jun 29, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    I would recommend it for those staying with stock springs, there are probably a couple dozen owners with this shackle flip and stock or stock +AAL and no complaints.
    Just know that you will get about 2" lift
     
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  11. Jun 29, 2017 at 11:18 AM
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    I'm running the shackle flip on Stock TSB springs w/ Icon ext shocks, definitely no complaints and am happy with the ride. It actually worked out good (for now, i want to replace springs and longer shocks for more flex) because the springs max out just before the shocks do.

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  12. Jul 12, 2017 at 8:14 AM
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    OP your work looks awsome....sub'd for future buys. @ARCHIVE
     
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  13. Jul 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM
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    Just got back from 5 days in Ouray and Moab. As far as i could see, i did not hit the gas tank with the new low profile bolt in the Dakars.

    We did damn near every trail/pass in Ouray minus the switchbacks on Black Bear Pass which was closed for snow. Only spent a night and morning in Moab and hit up Hell's Revenge. Most of the trail was done with little effort in 4 low, until we neared the end. Then we got a nice slap in the face. A wrong line on one of the descending features nearly cost my buddy his truck and another buddy's rear bumpers/bedside. Thankfully i went last and we figured out the line and i came down with no issue. It was at that moment, I realized I am more of a fast paced Baja guy. There's nothing like letting the supercharger do its thing in 4WD and crushing desert access roads at 70mph.

    Either way, shackle flip did its job and i never had a tire leave the ground (besides air time) in over 100 miles of dirt/rock.
     
  14. Jul 13, 2017 at 5:09 AM
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    Will these work woth the 63" Chevy leaf swap?
     
  15. Jul 13, 2017 at 9:52 AM
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    I believe they will, but you will still need to move the front mounting locations as the spring is longer.
     
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    Yes, these work but you'd need to slide the brackets rearward about 3", and front hangers would have to go about 4" forward.
    I have 1/8" thick 2"OD stainless washers to make 3" wide between the shackles for the Cheby bushings

    @Gavin Goodfellow has this flip on his #whitedelight solid front axle/ 63" rear springs Tacoma https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/white-delight-solid-axle-swap.457250/
     
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  17. Jul 13, 2017 at 7:23 PM
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    Hogan, I appreciate the report, sounds like a fun trip. How did the rear setup with shackle flip work for faster paced offroad stuff?
     
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  18. Jul 14, 2017 at 1:27 AM
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    Trip was a blast, though we could have spread out the driving over an extra day or two... Too many beers and awesome views make for long days behind the wheel. Shackle flip works great for going fast too. I can truly get the full compression of the Dakar spring pack all the way down to the last overload so it has travel for days (about 5.5" up travel with extended 5100's).
     
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  19. Jul 27, 2017 at 11:13 PM
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    I've read pretty much this whole thread and have learned a lot about a shackle flip and what it entails. I have a high clearance rear bumper coming in a couple weeks so it will be the perfect time to do this. My only question is what kind of longer shocks is everyone running? Right now I just have OME nitrocharger rear shocks and 100% sure they'll be max out easily after the flip. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need that droop badly! Thanks guys! IMG_8861.jpg
     
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    Also awesome product and craftsmanship @ARCHIVE very impressed and excited to get your work installed! The attention to detail and listening to your buyers (especially picky Dakar owners) :p made me choose your's easily over the competition. :thumbsup:
     
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