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2005 tacoma 2nd gen terminal frame rot rust cancer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by tacomeontherange, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Dec 18, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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    burtonboards32

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    How can one check for rust in a fully boxed frame? Once you see it, I would assume it is too late
     
  2. Dec 18, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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    Theres a few holes in the frame you can reach a finger in to feel around. If it feels like smooth metal your good, if not then your kinda sol. Also take a small hammer and hit the frame, if the pitch changes then more than likely you have found a rust spot.

    Edit: common spots are where the op has and also in front of the rear spring hanger. This not comes from my exp but from a Toyota tech who's worked for the last 20 years.
     
  3. Dec 18, 2012 at 5:22 PM
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    DoorDing

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    Sad to see this. Good luck, OP.

    Kellsport sells two extended tips for their Fluid Film undercoating guns. The first places I applied FF was to the interior of the rocker panels and deep within the boxed frame sections. The same tips work well to fog inside crossmembers and other tight spots.
     
  4. Dec 18, 2012 at 5:49 PM
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    You need air to work their undercoating guns, correct? I don't have a compressor...yet.
     
  5. Dec 18, 2012 at 6:26 PM
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    tacomeontherange

    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    possible outcomes:

    1.) ToyMoCo decides to make good on this (currently seems unlikely, jinx)

    2.) Dealer works something out with us (not out of the realm of possibility, but...)

    3.) TMC and dealer leave us hanging with a busted truck

    so let's assume #3. WTF am I supposed to do with truck with frame rot like that?

    Paying for a new frame replacement seems like a losing proposition right now, no?

    Am I supposed to tarp it until toyota decides that they're going to do something for this generation?
     
  6. Dec 18, 2012 at 6:33 PM
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    Might sound a little crazy but a fab shop might cut a square out and weld replacement section in. Looks like removing the exhaust would provide enough room to do so. Pretty much seems like the cheapest solution, but how much longer till the rest of the frame starts looking like that.
     
  7. Dec 18, 2012 at 6:49 PM
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    tacomeontherange

    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    hmmm. there's a nearby shop doing restoration work. might have to have a talk with him if things don't pan out otherwise. thanks for the suggestion.
     
  8. Dec 18, 2012 at 6:56 PM
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  9. Dec 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM
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    Wow, this is crazy. My 06 had a lot of surface rust. I couldn't imagine your reaction when you saw that. If they don't do anything, I'd be running their loaner off a cliff lol.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM
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    I really hope TMC makes good on this, but if not I would think a law suit would ruffle some feathers. If your not in the mood for all the legal shenanigans I would also think your insurance could step in? :confused: Either way I hope all works out for you, such a shitty situation.
     
  11. Dec 18, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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    If it goes to #3 I would do my best to blanket the web and contact anyone willing to listen.

    Toyota had to make good previously due to safety concerns of frames breaking and cabs coming off the frame as well. So it is the same scenario, shame on them.

    This is not your fault as some have stated and it was not the fault of the previous first gen truck owners either with rot problems. I have never had a frame problem concerning rust previous to owning my Tacoma and I have had a bunch of trucks or work trucks with no washing ever. None had frame rust scaling as bad as my current tacoma.
     
  12. Dec 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM
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    Yes, the undercoating guns require compressed air. I believe they give the air supply requirements on their site. If you plan to use FF annually, I think it's a good way to go.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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    Rear leaf spring tsb 5000 miles, w ac fan 26k miles, windshield creaking 28k miles- not warranty. Bad upper idler pulleys 32k miles- not warranty, Toyota Quality!
    Contact your local news if they dont do anything. The news loves Toyota problems.
     
  14. Dec 19, 2012 at 1:58 AM
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    Too many to list..
    Good luck OP... Hope it works out for you! :pccoffee:
     
  15. Dec 19, 2012 at 3:12 AM
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    good suggestions everyone. I will be posting my (social) media strategy for your consideration if it comes to that.

    for the time being: let's think good thoughts.

    @Beavis0076: - yes please, very interested to see that number
     
  16. Dec 19, 2012 at 3:40 AM
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    That's actually a really good idea
    Don't jump the gun however. You want Toyota and the dealer on your side
     
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    If it comes to that, I'd suggest studying how the 1st gen recall developed. There may be some strategery in that story that could aid you in your quest.
     
  18. Dec 19, 2012 at 4:34 AM
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    Wow, I've had Chevy's that are 25 years old that don't have rust as bad as that. As a new Tacoma owner this worries me. I'd like to see Toyota do something for you, this truck is 6 years old! It's still a new vehicle by most peoples standards. If worse comes to worse you could take the truck back and take it to a different dealership for a trade in, hopefully they don't look at it in that much detail and give you a decent trade in value. When I traded my 2010 jeep in at toyota they didn't even really look at it. I'll be checking back to see what happens with this.
     
  19. Dec 19, 2012 at 6:13 AM
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    Did you fill out NTHSA report already? I would do that. Work with corporate if that does not work try contacting Attorney general in the state.
    On the side note: Toyota is replacing frames on everything from 4 runner to land Cruiser and Sequoia.
    Not sure when they going to learn and pain that F frame. With exception of the rusty frames Toyota trucks are perfect, which leads me to believe this is doen on purpose by Toyota to limit lifetime of their vehicles.
     
  20. Dec 19, 2012 at 6:28 AM
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    Hope they take care of you.
    My dealer started the frame replacement on my 2001 before I even knew about the program.

    Frame was replaced in 2000 or 2001 but the extended frame warranty runs until 2016 for my truck.

    As soon as they were done with the frame, I drove directly to Ziebart and they shot the frame and truck. Should give me plenty of years before ever needing another truck.

    Hope this isn't an indication of problems down the road.
     
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