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2007 tacoma off road questions

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by cozdude, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM
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    Hey Everybody,

    i just want to start off by saying i am not a toyota guy, i own a 2011 jeep wrangler, but i have a few questions for my lazy friend who doesnt know how to search for stuff lol

    He has a 2007 tacoma TRDoff road with the tow package. He was told that it already comes with a extra leaf in the rear, can anyone confirm this?

    also he is looking to run 33's (285/70's) and already has a leveling kit. can he run the leveling kit and 33's without doing any trimming to the body?

    if he cant do the above he has been looking at a 3" lift from either pro comp or OME. in the jeep world pro comp is pretty crappy. of the two what would you suggest? is there another kit that is on the cheaper side or in that price range that is comparable. i know ride is subjective but opinions are welcomed.

    thanks everyone!


    P.S. i did search google and on here and i couldnt find what he was looking for so i joined to post and ask. thanks again!
     
  2. Apr 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM
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    Friendly bump to keep this recent. trust me im not trolling.

    here is a pic of my jeep if your curious and the specs
    Vehicle:Wrangler Sport
    Year:2011
    Color:Flame Red
    Transmission:Automatic
    Suspension:Teraflex 2.5" coils
    Bilstein 5100 shocks
    Rubicon Swaybar w/ EVO No Limits
    EVO Front LCA
    Stock Front UCA
    Rock Krawler rear Control arms
    Crown HD Ball Joints
    Wheels & Tires:Black Rock Soft 8's - 16x8 4.25 bs
    Nitto Mud Grappler 315/75R16
    Bumpers:Rugged Ridge stubby front
    OR-Fab tire carrier w/ ropax
    rear EVO D ring mounts
    Armor:Rancho Oil Pan Skid
    EVO C Gussets
    EVO Rock Sliders w/ custom angle
    EVO Rocker Skins
    EVO Rock Star Skids
    Drivetrain:5.13's
    Rear ARB air locker
    Front TEN Factory shafts
    Winch:Quadratec Q9000
    Performance:AIRAID CAI
    Dynomax Rock Crawler exhaust
    Lights:Truck Lite's
    Accessories:Superchips Flashpaq
    Cobra 29 LX
    3' Firestick
    ARB Twin Air Compressor
    UFO's for hood and Tailgate
    PlastiDiped grill
    grab handles
    Weather Tech floor mats

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  4. Apr 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM
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    i wish i could look for him but he lives in canada just outside of vancouver so its a little far of a drive for me lol i will text and ask how many he has in the rear. do you happen to know what is the standard number of leafs are?

    ok so i guess the leveling kit and 33's are out then

    yea pro comp is harsh from my experience. i suggested the bilstein or toytec lift to him from what i have read. i have bilstein shocks on my jeep and they are great so i can only imagine that their coilover kit is nice as well.
     
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    Unlike a Heep our suspension lifts do not change the geometry of the trucks suspension so if he is offroading the same sized tires that fit stock will fit lifted.

    Largest diameter tire he can fit with minimal modifications is a 255/85/16 pizza cutter on stock wheels and they make 285's look like wee little baby tires. They tuck under the fenders when flexed.

    285's are wide and not practical IMHO. They are so wide you must chop frame and fenders to fit them in most cases.
     
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    he has 4 leafs in the rear it looks like.


    how does a suspension lift not change your geometry but tires do?

    He wants a lift anyway so im sure he will do 285/75r16's

    yea i run 315/75r16's on my jeep with a 2.5" lift and i trimmed my fenders, for a LCG, so i dont rub at full flex so i know what you mean
     
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    neither do.

    lift's don't change the suspension articulation. just because you put on a 3" lift doesn't mean your suspension will allow a 1-1/2" taller tire.

    To keep this real simple........putting on a standard lift does NOT allow a larger tire.

    and in Tacoma's standard lifts = less down travel so they tend to ride like shit in the woods or trails.
     
  8. Apr 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM
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    Sorry the way you said it it sounded like they did.

    Right, a 3" lift is only good if you have the right shock length to accommodate the lift. You don't want to long of shocks otherwise you will just unseat your coils while flexing.

    Now when you say standard lift you mean a budget boost/spacer lift right? If so why can't you get the spacers and some shock extensions to allow the proper down travel?

    All the above is based off of some of my jeep knowledge so please correct me if I'm wrong.


    Is there a complete 3" coilover kit from Bilstein or OME (or another company) that anyone would recommend for my friend?
     
  9. Apr 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM
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    How does pushing the wheel hub 3 inches down further from the wheel well not allow a larger tire?


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    Is that your truck in your sig? Looks good! What lift and tires are you running?
     
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    5100's@1.75 and 265/75/16 Firestone destination AT in the pic, but I've installed an RCD lift since.


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    The wheel well is not getting any bigger.

    Get big man tires and make a turn. You will rub something. Get tires big enough you may rip something out if not damage the tires.
     
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    Big man tires? Okay. The wheel well actually is bigger at the bottom vs the top. And the further down you push the hub from the top of the wheel well equals less amount of tire in the wheel well.

    255/85's didn't fit my truck stock and they do now with a lift.


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    The rub at the same place under compression , no ?
     
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    So to get this back on track, what 3" lift do you suggest for a 33" tire? Hemainly does DD with his truck. I guess you can say he does easy off roading since he is in construction so going from site to site on non paved roads.
     
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    If the amount of available uptravel stays the same then no. If you have 8 inches of available uptravel and a 4 inch lift, the starting point of the uptravel (the hub) is now 4 inches further a way from the point it was rubbing pre-lift.


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    For mostly DD the choice is easy... RCD lift. Its a 4" lift but is better fit for 33's and Daily driving.
    -No rubbing with 33's.
    -Stock CV angles (no diff vibes)
    -No need to buy aftermarket UCA's
    -No preloaded springs, smooth ride.


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    Is cutting the front crossmember required ?
     
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    He shouldn't get a spacer lift, it will ride like crap. I would recommend a Toytec coilover (eibach/bilstein) or an Old Man Emu coilover lift (885 coils would probably be best) if he wants a full 3". The only thing about a 3" is you will need new UCAs to get it back into alignment.

    Plenty of people fit 33s with just 2.5". An easy affordable way to get that is just to buy height adjustable Bilstein 5100s and max them out at 2.5".

    Yes you can run 33s. Yes they will rub. You just have to take off your front mud flaps, and trim plastic in the fender wells. You don't actually have to cut the fender on the outside like people who run 35s. You might also rub on the body mount. This isn't a huge deal unless you are really flexing your tires up into the wells. The cure for this is a cab mount chop where the body mount is cut skinnier and a new plate is welded back on. Your buddy shouldn't need to do that though from the looks of what he is doing with his truck.

    Also, nice jeep man! :D My best friend has a jeep just like yours. Same bumper and winch too actually, haha. Man what I wouldn't for a solid front axle, haha :rolleyes:
     
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    BUT IT'S A DROP BRACKET :eek:
     

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