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2014 Sport - sudden loss of steering control

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by whomung, Jul 11, 2020.

  1. Jul 12, 2020 at 5:48 AM
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    rnish

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    Check the obvious. Power steering fluid level. Power steering pump. Steering rack. I had an intermittent loss of PS issue with a Ford. Cost $3k for a new steering rack.
     
  2. Jul 12, 2020 at 6:58 AM
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    Considering a VSC recalibration requires no parts and very little time, it is the first thing I would try. You can always load up the parts cannon later if the recalibration doesn't help.
     
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  3. Jul 12, 2020 at 6:10 PM
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    there have been actual cases whereby investigation by law enforcement
    by insurance after a serious accident modifications by NON certifed mechanics
    have resulted in negative residual results
    ( both will obtain access at dealer......... wrecker or impound yard )

    notably with brake systems

    more notably with air bags

    jakd up too high................laws already on the books when bumpers dont meet

    driving after an air bag activation repair by a non certified mech after activation

    ANY Dealer doing the above.........there are shops in this area that will NOT touch
    owner modifications

    not my opinion
    actually loosely enforced ................... mores when accidents are serious

    or the Accident Team is called out ON Scene !!!

    just sayin
     
  4. Jul 12, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    What does this have to do with recalibrating VSC?
     
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  5. Jul 12, 2020 at 7:33 PM
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    ROAD DOG

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    i was replyin to a differnt response

    im thinkin i wont hear ' grinding noises ' unless its something mechanical

    some seem to think its routine is the ' VSC ' needs to be recalibrated ( i would assume by dealer )
    no less arbitrary if the truck is lifted......... sometime yes sometimes no

    while that may be possible
    i dont think so

    no less i mentioned how from the symptons mentioned b4
    in my neck o the woods
    ONLY certified Techs can work on certain systems
    many in my area adhere to the matter

    in that if a serious accident occurs ................its considered
    it can have repercussions

    U dont have to agree
     
  6. Jul 12, 2020 at 7:51 PM
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    Absolutely nothing.

    Just saying...
     
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  7. Jul 13, 2020 at 11:34 AM
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    Just spoke with the guy in the shop... He drove the truck for about an hour over the weekend... Was able to make the symptom happen once... His initial diagnosis was that the the ABS was coming on for a second... With the lift, larger tires and rims with an offset, he felt the computer was thinking I was on ice and in a skid...

    He heard the "low grinding noise" I mentioned and felt it wasn't mechanical. In his opinion, it was the ABS doing rapid pumping... He mentioned driving the truck for a week or so with the ABS turned off to see if that was it before pouring a ton of money into the repair.

    I told him about this thread and sent him the link to it, as well as the "reset your VSC" for his review... But sounds like his initial diagnosis and the groups were pretty similar.

    jimmyh...I think that you and mechanic are right about the "grinding sound" - that its the ABS pumping, not mechanical... In retrospect, that sounds correct..

    RoadDog... you make a very good point about Toyota certified mechanics and liability... Failure on this could be beyond personally horrible for myself or others... It could involve serious finances as well... Thanks

    StickyTaco... Thanks for pointing out the VSC issue and the link... Which also led me to the "turn off the ABS" thread

    Really appreciate all the support from the group... This was my first post here, and you guys were most helpful... probably saved me a ton of time, money and certainly anxiety - particularly if I taken the truck to the shop that did the lift. Your advice also gave me a lot of confidence in my mechanics diagnosis, and gave him further info regarding the fix.

    Very nice.

    I'll post again in a few days to report if the problem was solved, but seems hopeful right now

    Thanks
     
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  8. Jul 13, 2020 at 11:49 AM
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    If you read up on VSC and understand what it does, you will get a better understanding of why it's causing the symptoms you have and why recalibrating it will fix the problem. In the time it took you to write that post, you could have fixed your truck. Instead, you chose to take the advice of a idiot mechanic and disable safety features.
     
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  9. Jul 13, 2020 at 11:52 AM
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    Haven't disabled anything yet, trucks not in my possession... But Definitely going to re calibrate the VSC
     
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  10. Jul 13, 2020 at 5:00 PM
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    Thanks for the feedback. Keep us up to date.

    A quick VSC Calibration will make you happy. I am suprised that the "mechanic" didn't just go ahead and do it.
     
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  11. Jul 13, 2020 at 5:03 PM
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    as long as we're guessing>steering shaft loose or disconnected
     
  12. Jul 13, 2020 at 5:07 PM
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  13. Jul 13, 2020 at 5:34 PM
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    Just got the truck back... Mechanic did the VSC calibration recommended... His own diagnostic this morning led him to the ABS... When I sent him a link to the VSC thread, he was like "OF COURSE -- THAT'S *IT*" - made complete sense to him.

    So truck is re-calibrated... I feel a whole lot better... He charged me $50, and thanked me for showing him the link and this site... I'll road test the truck locally tonight, and take it up and down canyon tomorrow... about 180 mile round trip... That should confirm it.

    Thanks to all
     
  14. Jul 13, 2020 at 7:34 PM
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    sounds like U have found a good decent mechanic

    its not about me being right .....................no matter what

    i hope you get it corrected & be safe

    good luck
     
  15. Jul 13, 2020 at 10:28 PM
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    Thanks for the update.

    I do feel it should have been free.... Whatever.
     
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  16. Jul 13, 2020 at 10:58 PM
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    You’re too kind. The mechanic should have paid whomung $50 for a valuable lesson since he now has the knowledge to charge future customers $50 for a 5 minute service. The mechanic should also pay everyone in this thread that suggested VSC calibration, an additional $20.
     
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  17. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:15 PM
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    Well... I just drove 80 miles down canyon... and it happened again... only once, as opposed to three times last week.. but same loss of control and abs pumping for about 1.5 seconds on a sweeping right turn doing 50 mph... kinda bummed... and I still got to go back home
     
  18. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:18 PM
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    I almost thought he was going to pay me... and all of you... but looks like fix didn’t quite do it...
     
  19. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:41 PM
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    back to bone stock.
    this is the oddest problem on the forum. good luck. i have nothing.
     
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  20. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:45 PM
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    If it only does it on sweeping right turns, and not sweeping left turns, I’m gonna guess the calibration still isn’t right. It would be something if he charged you $50 and didn’t do it right.
     
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