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2016 - Present Old Man Emu Kits

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Low Range Off-Road, May 9, 2016.

  1. May 18, 2018 at 10:23 PM
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    EatSleepTacos

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    My bad, I skimmed your first post and thought you said you had 500 lbs extra in the bed and they were sagging bad, so that's why I mentioned failing leafs.
     
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  2. May 18, 2018 at 10:29 PM
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    kalieaire i didn't know they stacked sh*t that high.

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    Most of us are running either custom deaver or alcans. They're all roughly in the 1k range because they can turn them around faster.
     
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  3. May 18, 2018 at 10:32 PM
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    That much? My friend is running custom deaver and they were only ~$750 to his door. He doesn't have too much weight, so maybe that's why they're less. I do know they're custom though.
     
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  4. May 19, 2018 at 12:44 AM
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    kalieaire i didn't know they stacked sh*t that high.

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    out of state but not across the country maybe?

    Tax is 9.25% here.
     
  5. May 19, 2018 at 1:23 AM
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    :notsure: Don't know, he's in FL
     
  6. May 21, 2018 at 10:05 PM
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    pc3coyote www.pc3coyote.com

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    Haha thanks! I have OCD so my posts are always detailed. I appreciate the recommendation.

    Thanks for all of the super helpful feedback!

    Yeah, I wasn't sure if the HD would be too much. I'm probably around 300-400 lb. I figured HD would give me good wiggle room if I add more weight like a heavier topper plus food/water/gear and maybe even a steel bumper down the road.

    I was thinking of doing UCAs since I'm doing the lift anyways. I figured the 886 coils with my slightly lighter front end would be maxing the stock UCAs out.

    Great to hear RE: 285s! It's so hard to assess since so many trucks are different plus all of the wheel combos. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and do that down the road with a CMC.

    I've read a lot about the ECGS bushing and have mixed reports of whether or not it's worth biting the bullet. Do you think it's worth doing it at the same time? I'm going to look into TW members for help that do installs in SoCal and/or other recommended shops because I don't really have the garage/tools/buddies/know-how haha.

    Thanks! I think the HD should cover me for now and my little bit of gear growth. I'll be offloading but nothing too crazy. Mostly a daily driver with some occasional trail rides.
     
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  7. May 30, 2018 at 6:28 AM
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    Thanks for all the info in this thread guys, I have the medium kit with JBA uppers sitting in my garage waiting on me to get home. Its been a long time since I lifted a vehicle and reading through these pages has given me confidence in my kit, and follow on actions if needed.
     
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  8. Jun 30, 2018 at 10:26 AM
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    - Ready Lift 3" F 2.5" R - TRD Pro Grille - 275/70/R17 KO2s on TRD Pro Rims - Rigid LED Foglights - Window Tint - Bed Mat - K&N 63-9039 CAI and more to come when back home to install which include... - ACEkraut flush mount front license plate bracket - Tacowiede milled aluminum stereo knobs - Kicker speaker upgrade w/ Subaru tweeters - AVS low pro window deflectors - LED bulb conversion for interior/license plate - Husky mats
    I currently have a ReadyLift kit installed that was done from the dealership when I bought it .
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    There are 3 ways I am thinking about going for suspension upgrades increasing in cost...:p:

    1. 5100s all around w/ 887s keeping the rear 2" blocks
    2. 5100s all around w/ 887s with Tough Country 85255 AAL (adding 2")
    3. Or the full OMETAC16LKSB

    2 Questions regarding the possible upgrades:

    1. Should I keep the Diff spacers and sway bar extenders installed from the ReadyLift regardless of which route I choose?
    2. Would I also need to buy new leaf spring clips if I run the AAL or will the stock ones work?

    Thanks for any advice!!!
     
  9. Jun 30, 2018 at 11:19 AM
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    This guy is highly remmended, he installed my OME lift and ECGS bushing and did some other work. He is great and a super nice guy. I would recommend doing the ECGS bushing, you have it apart anyway, Jason will do the labor for reasonable $, and he has all the tools to do it so you don’t have to waste money on tools you would only use once.
    I went with the OME medium lift with 888s. I have a winch and bumper, drive train armor and sliders, and a leer hard shell. I didn’t replace the UCAs and have no alignment issues, I do run 265/70/17 Grapplers. I may be wrong but I don’t think you change out the UCA for added strength, more so that it gives you more range of adjustments to get a proper alignment. OME pretty much designs their lifts to work with stock UCA. Pretty sure I would need a CMC if I went to 285s. For my needs the 265s are perfect, gives plenty of room for suspension travel with no rubbing or bumping. Don’t know what part of SoCal you are in, I am in OC and could meet up if you want to take my truck for a spin and see if you like the suspension. I think our trucks are already pretty close to twins.

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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-overland-fast-or-crawl-builds.202711/page-39
     
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  10. Jul 19, 2018 at 1:49 AM
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    So finally going to pull the trigger on the OME kit.

    Few final questions.

    1- I'm guessing uca is recommended on this since it has the 888 coil?

    2-can I add two additional 1/4s spacers to the front, and be ok ride height wise without added weight?

    3- should I go ahead and get the ECGS now? Also how long does this add labor wise while doing the lift if having it installed?

    4-want to run 275/70r18s on this setup. Should that be good to go without trimming?
     
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  11. Jul 19, 2018 at 3:09 AM
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    I am running the OME full heavy lit on my truck. LR Control arms, 90001 struts, 886, and Dakar heavy leafs. Rear of the truck is great but I wish they offered a higher spring rate than the 886 for the front. I am at 7100lbs loaded when we head for the hills. The front suspension could just use a touch more lift and spring rate. 7D7F472B-04D2-424B-9A02-F6073B392643.jpg
     
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  12. Jul 19, 2018 at 7:57 AM
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    Well at 7100 lbs you are 1500 lbs over GVWR which would be just nuts if true
     
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  13. Jul 19, 2018 at 8:22 AM
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    Can someone help me with these last few questions before I order the full OME setup.

    1- I'm guessing uca is recommended on this since it has the 888 coil?

    2-can I add two additional 1/4s spacers to the front, and be ok ride height wise without added weight?

    3- should I go ahead and get the ECGS now? Also how long does this add labor wise while doing the lift if having it installed?

    4-want to run 275/70r18s on this setup. Should that be good to go without trimming?
     
  14. Jul 19, 2018 at 8:25 AM
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    Also, someone said I would need a new axle seal??
     
  15. Jul 19, 2018 at 12:59 PM
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    I have the full OME medium kit.
    UCAs are not necessary, OME kits are actually designed to retain the stock UCAs. Some folks say that using a aftermarket UCAs helps you dial in your alignment because they give you a wider range of alignment adjustment. I retained stock UCAs and have had no problems getting a good alignment.

    I did the 1/4 spacer just on my drivers side to eliminate taco lean. My truck sits perfectly to me. I would guess if you wanted to add a bit more height up you could put them on both sides.

    I did the ECGS bushing install when the lift was done. It adds about one hour to hour and a half to the job. I figured while it was apart anyway why not. I think the vote is split about needing the ECGS with a 2-3” lift. For me I would rather have it done and not need it than need it and not have it. The parts are cheap, if your doing it yourself the tool is available through some TW members that will loan it to you for shipping costs.

    285/70/17 pretty much require trimming and a CMC or you will get rubbing, unless you never leave pavement and don’t hit any bumps. 275/70/18 is a larger diameter tire, but is slightly narrower.
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    I am pretty sure your going to have to do some trimming and probably a CMC if you don’t want rubbing. I did run 275/70/17s KO2s and had some minor rubbing when off road. I switched to 265/70/17s and experienced no rub. I didn’t want to do a CMC. I use Rokblokz flaps that pretty much hug the truck and didn’t have to trim them.

    You would need a new front axle seal if you do the ECGS bushing, pretty much impossible not to damage it when you pull it to put in the ECGS bushing. Not that expensive $20 and when you order from ECGS they have an option to include the seal.

    https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-8536125-toyota-8-clamshell-bushing-eliminates-needle-bearing.html
     
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  16. Jul 19, 2018 at 1:44 PM
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    kalieaire i didn't know they stacked sh*t that high.

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    Why?
     
  17. Jul 19, 2018 at 2:43 PM
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    Excellent reply @Blazingbluesport very nice indeed!
     
  18. Jul 19, 2018 at 2:48 PM
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    I have added weight tires, sliders, skids, bumper, winch, roof rack, bed rack, auxiliary battery setup, solar and the list goes on. If you had a bone stock truck and slapped all of that on it yes it might be cause for concern. However along with my armor and other things I have also upgraded the suspension, brakes and performance of the truck to compensate for the extra load on the truck. We are in a thread discussion about aftermarket suspension after all.

    Don’t think many people actually weigh there trucks and plan accordingly. With added weight you have to upgrade the braking, carrying capacity and overall performance of the vehicle.
     
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  19. Jul 19, 2018 at 3:08 PM
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    Yea, if you've upgraded every component that is load bearing, and have upgraded the brakes for the added weight, including the driveline, radiators, transmission coolers, and all the fluids/oils then you should not have a problem. Worst that can happen if you haven't compensated the engine or tranny is you wear them out faster.
     
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  20. Jul 19, 2018 at 3:52 PM
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    kalieaire i didn't know they stacked sh*t that high.

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    I do not believe this is necessarily true.
     

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