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2016 Tacoma engine

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by forana, Jan 10, 2015.

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  1. Jan 13, 2015 at 6:39 AM
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    GoHuskers

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  2. Jan 13, 2015 at 7:28 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    To me this is end of an era.
    I am one of those loyal Toyota customers Toyota rep mentioned during the presentation.
    I had 1gen, have 2gen Tacoma plus own two more Toyota trucks.

    If Toyota thinks I am gonna buy Tacoma with Camry size engine they need to have their head examined.
    If I wanted Camry size engine I can buy Camry.
    Toyota could have dropped 3UR 5.7 V8 with AB60 (six speed) in Tacoma and it would have been perfect combination. Mileage would be almost the same as current 4.0 L (maybe difference in 1-2 MPG)
    And 3UR is Truck engine.
    Now yeah I am sure there will be suckers buying that truck with that tiny engine. Thats their problem, people dont understand that in a truck you rather have less HP in lower RPMs than more HP in higher RPMS. Its a truck not a race car. If I wanted race car I would get Sti.
    As for the engine. There is only one engine with 3.5 V6 direct injection and Atkinson cycle in Toyota line up.
    They may have to change it slightly so its more truck like (dual oil pan for example) but on the end this is still crappy engine. this is 3.5 L not even with Turbo. Atleast Ford put Turbos in their ecobost.
    If you think you gonna tow anything bigger than canoe with this thing you need your head examined.

    If I we can not have diesel at least give V8 option or new 1GR from 4runner. Da f we need Camry engine for
     
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  3. Jan 13, 2015 at 7:45 AM
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    No, its not a "True Atkinson" cycle engine. Its a modified Otto cycle.

    A direct injected engine can produce more torque, and at lower RPM, than a larger engine that has port fuel injection. To add, a 3.5/3.6 L engine has much less friction area between the piston, and cylinder walls, allowing it to be more efficient. I would be surprised if the new engine doesn't have more torque, and at a lower RPM than the current 1GE motor.

    Also, over the last 5 years, most every auto manufacture has gotten their CAFE up by 3 mpg across the board. Toyota has LOST .2 mpg over the last 5 years.
     
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  4. Jan 13, 2015 at 7:54 AM
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  5. Jan 13, 2015 at 7:55 AM
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    that quote on the Atkinson cycle is what I was thinking when I posted above.

    I stand corrected on the full Atkinson engine, but isn't it more Atkinson than otto?

    its geared more for recharging the batteries and running at cruising speed than stop/go, heavy loads, pulling.
     
  6. Jan 13, 2015 at 7:58 AM
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    no. An Atkinson cycle engine uses a "lever" thing (not sure what its called precisely) which is attached to a pivot with linkages, then connects to the crank shaft.

     
  7. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:02 AM
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    How dare Toyota put a tiny 3.5L V6 that is as powerful as the 4.6L V8 I had in my Caddy :stirthepot:
     
  8. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:08 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    I Dont know about that, look at the curve of 2gr-FSE below 2000 RPMS its way below what 1GR is. In truck you need torque from idle to 2000 RPMS because more often than not you going to be idling through stuff not high revving.
    When you flood engine at idle it stops, When you flood engine at 2000 RPMS your crank comes out from the block.
    V8 would have been good option, Diesel would have been even better option.
    3.5L Camry engine is horrible option.
     
  9. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:10 AM
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    Its all tuning. You can get the torque lower in the new motor. And the days of flooded engines are pretty much over. If you flood a newer engine, you have underlying issues.
     
  10. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:13 AM
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    First grapf is the Chevy 3.6 V6 engine:

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    This is the Tacoma 1GR-FE:


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  11. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:14 AM
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    Torque curve is nice an flat, with an additional 1000 rpm, and dam near 70 more hp.
     
  12. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:20 AM
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  13. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:22 AM
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    Exactly what I said before (if actually confirmed). A little more power, a little more grunt, a little quicker and a focus on MPG. I'd like to see a TRD supercharger option a little more efficient as well and you've got a recipe for one kick-ass truck! That puts mixed MPG at about 20 which is probably 5mpg better than I get now or about a 30% increase in fuel economy which is no small feat.

    People who are crying about not getting a V8 or a Diesel want a full size truck. I'm SO sick of these cry babies who wouldn't be buying anyway. Toyota would be foolish to put so much R&D into a truck that 2% of buying customers will actually seek out. The rest will be sold at massive discounts by salesmen who are incentivized to move units that have been on the lot for months. If you want a diesel for torque... why? Without the proper frame/brakes/suspension you cant' take advantage of it for towing anyway. If you want diesel for fuel economy.... why? If they can make a gasser more efficiently with less weight and better sound... why are you hell-bent on a diesel? Have you been living in a cave for a decade and not seen the difference in regular unleaded and diesel at the pump?

    IMO, the Tacoma is NOT a V8 or Diesel truck. It just doesn't make sense when you get down to the #'s and the fact that Toyota has been ignoring the noisy minority proves exactly that. Everyone here complaining about not having a V8 or diesel option still owns a Tacoma and is posting on a Tacoma forum so....
     
  14. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:25 AM
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  15. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:27 AM
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    BRAVO!! exactly my thoughts. I don't see why people keep complaining aboout that. I don't think Toyota would be foolish to lose market share by putting an engine that simply will not be better than the current one. People are just speculating we do not know the numbers for torque or hp but i bet the numbers will be better than the current 4.0L.
     
  17. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM
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    I'm looking forward to test driving! I hope this new engine isn't as noisy as my 2014 4.0 was.. always thought it made too many odd noises for a brand new motor.
     
  18. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:32 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Yes and that GM engine already had two massive recalls.
    Yes you can tune 2 L Honda engine to have 1000HP but it aint gonna last.
    Idea is to have engine that fits truck description and lasts. Hence why Toyota designed 1GR, it was designed for Land Cruiser. Its used on almost every Toyota truck that Toyota cares. 4runner is not getting 3.5 nor any of the Land Cruisers getting it.
     
  19. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:33 AM
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  20. Jan 13, 2015 at 8:42 AM
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    like I said before . Pure speculation, nobody knows if this is an engine that is currently used in another toyota vehicle. Just because it is a 3.5L does not mean is the Camry engine. People please!
     
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