2016 Tacoma Sumo Springs vs Firestone 2407 Air Bags

I have these bags on my truck. Min pressure is 5 psi. These bags are over kill for these trucks. 5 psi will not bottom out over bumps on a empty truck.

I'm happy with the bags, but almost wish I would of went with the airlift brand. My buddy has airlift on his Tacoma. To keep a level ride with my boat, he needs 35 psi. With my firestone bags and my boat I only need 15 psi.

With that said, his truck rides nicer on 15 psi than mine does on 5 psi.

 

The 612 models are the redesigned update for 3rd gens. Before those came out, supersprings recommended the 2nd gen models. The redesign specifically addressed the exact problem you are having, which is why the new ones are shorter.

 

Might take a look at the Timbrens or the Hellwig helpers before purchasing bags.

 

Hey guys, I don't tow anything but I do load up my truck with heavy rafting gear. I have a camper shell on the back. With four adults and my truck packed to the brim I notice that my truck seems to bottom out when I'm on the trail and hit some bumps. Are these Sumo Springs something that I could use to alleviate this bottoming out feeling? Any thoughts are appreciated! I've never used or heard of something like these until I searched TW.

 

Yes, they would work well for your situation. 612-40 500lbs, and 612-47 1000lbs. Progressive compression on them.

 

Sorry to dig up an old post, but where did you mount the compressor and control valve? I'm thinking about in one of the cab pockets.

 

Cubby.

 

Just took mine out last night, Going to assemble it in the comfort of my workshop and reinstall today!

 

Tight fit in original cubby. Dont think it can be done. Remember manifold has to be above compressor.
I used a expedition essentials box.

 

I see what you're saying. I might end up chopping the top of the box out because I'm not too excited on spending $115 more on this project. I'll take a look at them tonight.

 

I know this post is OLD, but thought I would put up a photo of the SumoSprings

$283 SSR-612-40 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tacoma, blue

SSR-612-40's that I installed on my 2016 TRD OR. I went with the suggested part for my year model. They ride great, don't even know they are back there while not loaded. When towing the boat they do a great job at holding the rear end up, no harsh feeling when hitting bumps or RR tracks. With no load on the rear, there's about a 1/2 inch gap between the Sumo and the frame. When towing they come in contact with the frame, yet still provide a smooth ride.
Totally happy with these.

 

I'm glad you like them, but with the 610 and 612 set for my 2016 trd sport they were in contact with the bump stop perch 100% of the time and rode like garbage for me.

I wonder if my leaf springs are damaged/bent/tired from towing my boat...

 

It's hard to say why yours rode that way. I am about to install a 1/2 inch block under my leaf springs to raise the rear just a bit. At that point the Sumo's will probably be in contact with the frame all the time. If my ride quality changes I will let you know. My ride quality may be a result of the PRO shocks. They do provide an incredible amount of rebound. You can't compress them together by hand, and once they are compressed, they rebound with a vengeance.

 

I bought the 612-47s originally, but then after adding a ARE cap, they bottomed out to hard. Switched to 610-47s and it rides much better. But yes, they touch the frame all the time.

 

I went with the

$283 SSR-612-40 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tacoma, blue

SSR-612-40's. I wanted a softer ride. The 47's provide much more stiffness, thus allowing for more payload.

 

The block goes under spring and on top of axle. Your spring clearance, bump stop to frame won’t change.

 

I hope you are right about that. I would prefer the Sumo's to not touch the frame until a load is applied. We shall see. Thanks.

 

Very old thread. Can we get a report on the blocks and the Simon?
Also, I’m curious how this affects the operation of the WD hitch. Does less weight get transferred to the front axle with more weight hitting the non sagging rear?

 

This is a question that I also have. The installation instructions for my Blue Ox WD hitch are clear.

"Air-ride shock absorbers, air springs, or automatic leveling systems on towing vehicle should be disabled or deflated to the manufacture’s minimum recommended pressure prior to SwayPro™ installation."