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205/60R16 on a 1st gen 5 lug?

Discussion in '5 Lug' started by bretts, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. Apr 26, 2019 at 4:33 PM
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    My friend gave me her 2000 Lexus ES300 which has fairly new tires and the stock 16s. While I'm working on getting the engine fixed I'd like to swipe the tires for my truck which is currently running two 195/75r14 and two 205/70r14 tires (All 4 tires are different brands!!) and they're all pretty much gone.

    Will 205/60R16s rub on a stock 1st gen single cab?
     
  2. May 3, 2019 at 10:43 PM
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    I ran 235x55x17 on 17x8 4.5” bs with stock suspension with no issue
     
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  4. May 8, 2019 at 5:37 PM
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    Based on this:
    http://autotk.com/wheels/lexus/es-300/

    The center bore of Gen 1 Taco 2wd are 67.1.
    The center bore of the ES300 is 60.1.

    To use the wheels, the centers need to be enlarged. A machine shop is most accurate, but expensive.
    Some people have dremmeled them out work, but that takes supreme precision to fit correctly.
     
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  5. May 9, 2019 at 7:20 AM
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    Thanks this is the info I needed.. I got the ES300 running perfectly fine so I will keep it as is. I guess I'll just get some Tigerpaw AWP 14 inch tires and call it a day. I wanted to get larger rims for Yokohamas, but the tiger paws should be fine for a 5 lug daily driver :)
     
  6. May 9, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    I would slide my Tigerpaws all over the place with my 2.4. That’s the main reason I wanted stickier tires.

    16s aren’t hard to find. I bought the Atom steelies from Discount Tire Direct & am very happy with them.

    (I may drive more aggressive than most .... hahahahaha)
     
  7. May 9, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    See, the only good 14 inch tires are BFs and they cost close to $900 for a full set.. What are you running on your new wheels? I feel like I'm in a boat and if the tigerpaws are no better I may just spend the extra coin for new wheels.
     
  8. May 9, 2019 at 7:36 AM
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    I would spin & slide TPs in 2nd gear. Plus, I’m “used to” BFG Comp 2 Sports.
    So, I got 225/55/15 Comp 2 A/S. That’s overkill for most.

    Unless you tend to drive like a bat outta hell & corner at speed (I’m interested in cornering, rather than mass acceleration), BF Goodrich Advantage T/A Sports should be plenty. I almost got those in 225/60/16 (I think that was the size).

    I will say I am probably not the best person to speak on this ... hahahahaha. I’m in the process of putting an S-Runner replica suspension on my truck.
     
  9. May 9, 2019 at 7:49 AM
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    You've given me a lot to think about.. and a lot more money to spend. LOL
     
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    The rims & rubber was still less than $900 shipped (everything inc. tax & shipping).
    With cheaper tires, you can lower that.
    Tire Rack has great options too. I back & forthed for 2 months before I pulled the trigger. I seriously looked at Konig Runlites & other rims too.
    For me, the deciding factors were:
    -I wanted a more “retro” look, long term. (I am planning to use vinyl to replicate this look, but with tan instead of white & the side lines following the fender crease:


    -The Atoms were listed at 19 lbs/ea, while all the others were in the 17-20 lb range. So, they weren’t significantly heavier, had the right “look” I wanted, & had the non-expensive look I liked (not likely to steal). Other steelies are in the 25-30 lb range for 16” size.

    -They were cheap enough ($73/ea.) that, should I decide to get alloys later, I’m out $300, rather than $500-800. Plus, they can run tires I really wanted.

    If you want more comfortable, lighter tire combos, 15s are another option to look at.

    I wanted performance, which limited availability in tire sizes to 16” & 17”. Passenger tires are available in 15” that work well for most people.
     
  11. May 9, 2019 at 8:25 AM
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    well now I am looking at getting the same atom rims with the yokohamas I run on my other cars.. Will a 16inch tire fit where the spare tire lives? I was under there doing the diff fluid recently and it looked like there was plenty of room.. do you have a 16 spare?
     
  12. May 9, 2019 at 8:52 AM
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    My spare is one of my old Tiger Paws on the 14s (as I have them, why not? As of now it’s in the bed. I need to sand & paint the rails & move it underneath!
    Thanks for reminding me of that project.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2019 at 2:07 PM
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    So I ended up just keeping 14s and going with some Optimos at the stock size. now my steering wheel isn't conked from having 4 different tires in 2 different sizes! I also replaced the original shocks/struts all around to KYBs. That made a huge different in ride quality. I will be tackling the upper and lower BJs here soon, I already bought the parts from Toyota. Maybe one day I will upsize, but for now the 14s seem to do fine and were very cheap which is never a bad thing! :)
     
  14. Aug 17, 2019 at 1:44 PM
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    I know you stuck with the 14s for now but in case you up-size later, I currently have 215/60R16 on Hyundai Sonata rims from ebay. Tires are less than 1/4" taller than stock 14" tire. Suspension is original and probably a tad lower than when it was younger and it doesn't rub. I have an extra cab but can't imagine reg cab would be that different. I think these wheels weigh around 20-22 lbs and it did make a slight difference in acceleration and MPG (lost about 1 mpg average) but I'll trade that any day to get rid of the hubcaps and 14s!
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