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$261 for brake pads and rotors question

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Backt, Jul 5, 2021.

  1. Jul 5, 2021 at 6:45 PM
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    Backt

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    I’m purchasing new OEM rotors and pads and the price is the same through Amazon or Mcgeorge online Toyota parts I have selected the TRD performance pads for $13 dollars more. Are they worth it? I have no complaints with the stock pads. The truck has 140,000 miles.
     
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    My gut says save yourself $13 and stick with the stock pads.
     
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    If interested in greater stoping power at the expense of more complicated break-in, increased dust, and likely shorter pad life then yes. I’d run them again for sure. If wanting a basic long lasting pad without dust or complicated break in, then stock would be the way to go.
     
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    Stay with the stock pads.
     
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    OEM rotors are garbage

    TRD Ceramic pads will probably make less dust
    Ceramic usually has less bite than semi-metallic and is gentler on rotors

    If u have no complaints about the stock undersized parts then u must be using the truck as a golf cart

    Amazon same price as online dealer parts, sounds about right
    Amazon might also send the wrong part
    worth it? It's $13. Question is why not try.
    Will it improve the brakes the same way as 5th gen T4R bbk with Tundra master cyl?
    No

    If the rotors are worn thin with a big lip, a smart guy would use this good timing as an excuse to slide some $50/ea bigger 4runner calipers in there.
    So that the brakes are less likely to fail in a demanding situation such as off roading down a mountain or towing.
    A dumb guy would drop $300+ to put the same new garbage back on
    But you do you, if you prefer water in cereal over milk, go ahead

    Ceramic greater stopping power? I don't think so.
    More complicated break in? Break in on any pad is driving 100 miles normally, then hard stop bed in procedure, which is not difficult.
    Ceramic is less dust and long lasting.
    Both are about as cheap.
    Both suck just as good.
     
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    Yeah ,okay
     
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    I guess we all drive golf carts then.
     
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    I agree with you.
     
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    i just got new oem rotors, normal pads & reconstructed calipers. No fancy stuff yet for me
     
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    So far I like my Hawk LTS Ferro-Metallic pads. I have about 500 miles on them now and they bite and feel really good. I got a deal on some Napa Ultra Premium coated rotors so I went with those. OEM rotors are good but I wanted something coated so it wouldn't rust as quickly.
     
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    So, if you went that route, what would the part numbers be for a 2010 Tacoma 4x40?
     
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    I'd be weary buying OEM parts off Amazon. I've bought knockoff parts from amazon that came in OEM packaging. I knew they were knock offs because they were a 1/10th the price Toyota wanted and were not identical to what I replaced. It was alarming that the packaging looked so legit.
     
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    I'm glad you're happy with small brakes
    there's a positive aspect to that;
    it saves you money to keep them

    Not sure yet because I haven't figured out the VIN split specifics myself yet, but there is a big DIY thread
     
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    Yep. And I'm not a dick about it either!!
     
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    LOL, what? This is a very ignorant statement at best if I am being polite.

    Have you any idea in the differences of long life ceramics vs high performance (short life) ceramics? Clearly not. OEM Ceramics or even StopTech 'Street' performance ceramics don't hold a candle to the modern high performance ceramics in terms of stopping performance. And yeah, break-in on a true high performance ceramic pad is a PITA. Plenty have royally screwed it up by driving 100 miles normally just like you advise and botched their rotors and pads. Less dusting is also a funny claim, being that grenade dusting is the #1 complaint of a true performance ceramic pad, like the TRD ones listed which use the same ceramic compound as StopTech Sport Ceramics. And the TRD ceramics actually last much shorter in life, not longer. Also funny, people seem to give them rave reviews, not sucky ones as you claim. It is almost like literally everything you said was wrong based on false assumptions and not science. Can more extreme gains be had with semi-metallic? Certainly. Do those have their own additional draw backs? Definitely.

    Maybe try posting you thoughts in the brake thread on the matter with 125k views where the setup has an overwhelming positive response:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/brake-upgrade-stoptech-rotors-trd-performance-pads.523829/
     
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    changed my front pads on my '13 to Toyota ceramic at roughly 45K miles (after PA state inspect.), I've got a little over 105K now and they still have plenty of life left in them, original rotors also. I dont drive like a jackass & slam on my brakes tho, and rear shoes are still original.

    the Ceramic pads definitely put off way less dust.
     
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    Not sure what you are expecting out of a brake upgrade then. I ran that setup then upgraded to Stoptech’s ST60 BBK and the BBK wasn’t at all impressive over that setup, especially given the absurd price point premium of the BBK. Maybe your wheel/tire combo is heavy, or build is otherwise heavy but that setup is by far a better value than more extreme alternatives.
     

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