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265/70/17 tires rubbing so bad I can’t drive it HELP PLEASE!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Skeejunkee, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:15 PM.

  1. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:15 PM
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    Skeejunkee

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    I NEED HELP! I have already broke one thing and don’t want to screw up anything else so here’s what I have going on I’ve searched multiple threads on here trying to find the answers. I’ve had half a dozen people tell me different things so I’m coming here to the experts.

    I have a 2019 Tacoma TRD off-road crew cab. I am running to 265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak’s ATV3 with The factory black Trd wheels that come on the forerunner. I have no idea of the backspacing on those TRD wheels whether they’re 4 1/2, -10 or whatever help. I want to add the Bushwacker fenders and have them painted to match my Calvary blue truck because I saw them and they looked awesome. So I ordered spidertrax spacers 1 1/4 to move the wheels out to match the bigger fenders, so the wheels/tires would stick out and match. I think I need a lift but I’m not sure if a 2 inch or 3 inch lift will correct my problem. I do not take it off road it is strictly a daily driver. So a spacer lift on my Tacoma is fine because I’m not rock crawling and I did add the firestone airbags to the rear springs because I tow a little 6 x 12 enclosed trailer. I have an 2007 JK with a TeraFlex 5 inch long arm lift kit on 37‘s that’s my play toy. My taco is strictly to ride down the road and try to look like a bad ass in my 50s not sure if that’s working but that was the goal. Once I put the spacers on I can barely turn the tires because they eat up the factory plastic fenders and the inner fenders wells. I’m new to this and need all of your help. If somebody wants to send me a PM I would be happy to give you my phone number so you can help me out please anything anyone can do to lead me in the right direction I would appreciate it very much. Help!
     
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  2. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:19 PM
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    Steves104x4

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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    I feel your pain. This is TW and someone will be able to help. Hang tight
     
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  3. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:19 PM
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    Hooper89

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    It was fine before the spacers wasn’t it.
     
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  4. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:20 PM
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    This is a top view of what higher offset does...
    It puts more tire on the outside of the point on which your tires pivot.
    The blue(stock) and green(higher offset) represent the different radii of the arcs the outside of the tire follows.
    The larger radius follows a greater arc and thus more movement forward/backward in the wheel well.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:21 PM
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    TacoTyusday

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    sounds like you'll need to trim your fenders and tub/trim your liners if you want to keep those spacers on.
     
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  6. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:28 PM
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    Dirtyleg

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    Stay away from spacers! All they're doing is opening up a can of worms for your front end. Do a quick search on why wheel spacers are bad and you'll see why. So with the TRD wheels they have a positive 4mm offset with 4.15" of backspacking. Think of the spacer as being part of your rim now, you then add 1.25" of wheel spacer to it pushing your wheel out is now a HUGE difference. You've essentially changed your positive 4mm offset to a negative 27.75mm offset and reduced your backspacing from 4.15" to 2.9". So that sticks them out there quite a bit but now you run into the same issues as running a wider tire. You don't have the issues on the inside like frame contact or control arm rubbing but you do with the outside of the tire. Take off the spacers and either learn to live with how far it sticks out or buy wheels with a different offset would be my recommendation. I hope this helps!

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  7. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:28 PM
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    I'd take the spacers out since that sounds like what caused the issue.
     
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  8. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM
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    4runner wheels wouldn't be a problem, take off the spacers.
     
  9. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:30 PM
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    if you want to keep them a block lift and maybe trim wherever it rubs?
     
  10. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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    Have you tried it without the spacers? They very well could be the problem. Free to try without and easily reversible if worse.
     
  11. Jan 13, 2021 at 4:35 PM
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    Yep vote for no spacers.
     
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    By moving your tire out you've increased the scrub radius when you turn your wheels. This means that your tire is further back in the wheel well when turning. I put 265/70/17s on a 9x17 -12 wheel and leaving the shop the rub sounded horrific on even small turns. I got home and got out a dremel, heat gun and a baseball bat (I like the shape and leverage of a bat for forming plastic). You can probably eliminate 90+% of the rubbing in 30 minutes.

    First, there is a hard plastic chunk/nub/corner at the bottom of the liner. Cut that off, it should only be like a 3 inch cut taking off about 1/4" of material. Next, grab the heat gun and evenly heat the plastic liner. Push it back with a 2x4 or bat or similar. You need to reshape that liner so that the form stays put and it gives more room. Finally, chalk up the inside of the liner and fender. Get it good a chalky. Then drive around the block making sure to turn and rub. The places the chalk rubs off are the places you need to continue to reshape.

    I imagine you will have a small spot on the fender where you need to decide if you are moving material or removing the spacers. Chalk (or mud) getting rubbed off is the key to finding your problem spots. You may also find a spot under the liner that doesn't reshape because there is a metal seam behind it. That is a pinch weld and it can be flattened if needed.

    Good luck. You got this.
     
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    Agree with the above posts, I’d remove the spacers. I have the same wheels and tire size on a stock 2021 OR, no rubbing.
     
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    Why not go with smaller wheel spacers?
     
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    Wheel spacers is your issue. also send pics of it rubbing because 265/70/17 isnt supposed to rub like that
     
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  18. Jan 13, 2021 at 5:21 PM
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    Simplest thing is to ditch the spacers, forget the bushwhackers and the hella flush look.

    You're going to spend $ and time to solve problems for cosmetics only.

    OTOH it would look nice at the mall. Break out the tools!
     
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  19. Jan 13, 2021 at 5:30 PM
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    Did not read the whole thread. I have 265/70/17 C load KO2s on same wheels as you and i have no rubbing. Left tire "touches" the mud flap but that doesn't bother me one bit. My buddy has identical tires and wheels on his 19 OR and his tires do not even "touch" the mud flaps. You gotta lose those spacers, the farther your rims stick out, the more they will rub.

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    Motion to require actually reading the thread before you reply. It sure would cut down on the same dozen replies, anyway.
     
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