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2nd Gen DIY Big Brake KIt -OEM parts- Part #'s provided (INSTALLED)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by craigFLA, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. Jul 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM
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    craigFLA

    craigFLA [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Like many 2nd gen Tacoma owners one of my biggest complaints would be the OE front brakes. Rather it be my aggressive driving habits, occasional towing or a combination of both it seems like I am constantly warping rotors and eating pads.

    My 06 DC X-SP is 10-years old now, and over that time I have tried every front brake combination imaginable...pro-slots, brembro, Hawks, Napa, TRD...you name it and I've likely tried the combination at some point. No matter what front brake work seems to be needed every 8-10 months!!!

    It is important to note I have kept my rear drums adjusted, removed, checked and cleaned every 35k mi (roughly), and had just recently rebuilt (all new OE components including drums). My front brake issues are not due to faulty rears.

    Refusing to spend $2k plus on a big brake system for my 10 year old Tacoma with 106K miles, I set out to find an alternative.

    There are plenty of websites/forums for 1st gen Tacoma and 4-runner upgrades, however not much available for us 2nd gen owners. Much of the following information came from these sites:

    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-tacoma/1643050-brake-dimensions-specifications.html

    This following came from the first link above:


    13WG calipers match 319mm OD and 28mm thick rotors and accept the 199mm pads (this is the standard 2003-2009 4RUNNER caliper and 2005-2012 Tacoma and 2005-2012 FJ Cruiser)

    13WL calipers match 319mm OD (12.559-inch dia) and 28mm thick rotors and accept the 231mm pads (this is from 2000-2006 TUNDRA and 2003-2007 Sequoia and 2003-2005 and select 2003-2005 4runner)

    13WH calipers match 338mm OD (13.30 inch dia) and 28mm thick rotors and accept the 231mm pads (this is from 2003-2009 Lexus GX470 and select 2003-2009 4runner)

    All 3 of them are 4 piston 46mm bore fixed calipers
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    In researching the expensive big brake kits, it appears StopTech and other kits include 345mm (13.5 inch dia) rotors.

    My next question was how the larger big brake kit rotors are installed using the OE dust covers...answer is they are not. The installation instructions have you basically cut the dust cover off! For some this may be acceptable, for me it is not. The dust covers not only protect the rotors but also assist in cooling them.

    After my research I decided to try something I have not seen done on a 2nd gen Tacoma in all my research......install larger rotors from a 2003-2009 Lexus GX470 and select 2003-2009 4runner, along with of course the larger (higher actually) WH calipers. I also chose to completely roll the dice as well and order a set of Toyota OE dust covers for a 2006 4-runner Sport with 17" wheels....hoping these larger diameter backing plates would fit my Tacoma.

    Before moving forward I must mention my 06 DC has 20" Enkei wheels as part of the X-SP package. Anyone considering something like this will need to do their own research to determine if their wheels will allow for the larger rotors and calipers. This set up was installed on SOME 06 4-runner sport editions with 17" factory wheels, so it seems plausible 17" OE Taco wheels would be fine, but again this is NOT something I researched as it did not pertain to my application.

    The following was my parts list:

    NAPA Eclipse calipers
    (WH cast) - L caliper (part#SE3318) R caliper (SE3317) $78.30 EA + $50 EA core

    Rotors (13.30 inch dia) from 2003-2009 Lexus GX470 and select 2003-2009 4runner)
    Part # 43512-60151 $57.20 EA (purchased on Ebay from Toyota Tampa Bay)

    OE Pads & Shims (purchased online from ToyotaPartsDeal.com)
    Pads (part#04465-35290) $62.13
    Shim kit (part #04945-35120) $41.14

    Toyota 4-runner Dust Covers (ToyotaPartsDeal.com)
    part#s 47781-60120 & 47782-60120 $62.16 EA

    Parts cost: Just under $500. Considering I needed new rotors/pads anyway, and one of my OE calipers was in need of replacement (I always replace calipers in pairs), so this made absolute perfect sense for me.




    You can see the difference between the larger dust cover vs the taco OE



    Removing the wheel bearing hub to change out the dust covers


    While I had it apart I wire wheeled and sprayed the hub with a light coat of high-temp caliper paint. The Napa Eclipse calipers come black. No idea how long this finish will last but out of the box they looked good and saved me the work of painting them black.



    completed

    I've had these installed now for just under a month. There is a noticeable difference in stopping power..more than I expected.

    How it is in comparison to a high dollar big brake kit I do not know as I have not driven a taco with one of these kits. My OE big brake install cost about 25% of one of these kits, and frankly I cannot imagine these kits providing 75% more stopping power or longevity. I used all OE (inexpensive/readily available) parts and still have dust/backing plates. I only wish I had done this sooner as I have no doubt the additional metal/rotor diameter will help with heat dissipation which should result in less rotor warping. Only time will tell.
     
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  2. Jul 31, 2016 at 10:39 AM
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    I forgot to mention that I had already installed SS brake-lines some time ago. The WG cast calipers that come on our Taco's and the WH calipers installed in this upgrade are identical except for the length of the mounting "tabs". The WH calipers have longer "ears" to accommodate the larger diameter rotors. I was able to slightly bend/rework the hard brake line to fit the new calipers without issue.
     
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  3. Jul 31, 2016 at 10:51 AM
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    not a good pic, but the oe WG caliper (front) and new WH caliper rear
     
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  4. Jul 31, 2016 at 11:16 AM
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    I have been researching to do this, didn't want to pull the trigger cause I couldn't verify that the spindle/ knuckles were the same... Have you noticed one pad dragging more than the other? I know the disk to hub placement were a little different since the larger rotors are also thicker...
     
  5. Jul 31, 2016 at 11:23 AM
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    While the 1st gens did come with a smaller rotor "thickness", our 2nd gens came with 28mm rotors same as the Tundra, Lexus, and 4-runners mentioned in the post. Honestly this was a DIRECT swap, identical to any complete brake job with the exception of the dust covers which obviously required removal of the 4-bolt hub/wheel bearing which took me an extra 15 minutes per side. The rotors are centered in the caliper as they should be.
     
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  6. Jul 31, 2016 at 4:18 PM
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    good to know, gonna be doing this soon!
     
  7. Aug 1, 2016 at 5:58 PM
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    nice job

    thanks for the write up
     
  8. Aug 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM
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    I wonder if you can do this if you have 16" rims?
     
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  9. Aug 1, 2016 at 6:28 PM
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    Subscribed. Thank you for posting this information! I will be doing the same when it comes time to replace brakes!
     
  10. Aug 1, 2016 at 6:35 PM
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    Good job op this will be nice for future reference
     
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    Wish I had known about this before doing my pad replacement last month.
     
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    Very nice write up. Saved for future use.
     
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    Nicely done, @craigFLA! Sub'd for future reference.
     
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    This will definitely be happening when it's time for new rotors/pads on my truck. Hopefully someone will be able to confirm these brakes will fit under 16" wheels by then...
     
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    I did the 13WL swap on my '99 4Runner. Such a huge difference in the rotor thickness. All that required was some very minor trimming of the dust shield.

    I love how these parts are basically just a bolt-in job.
     
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    This swap is for larger diameter rotors, I'm almost positive it won't work on our 16s. There's very little room with the stock parts.
     
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    On the '99 and up Limited 4Runners with the factory 5 spoke 16" rims, they fit with no modifications. With the three split spoke 16" rims they will not fit without grinding off some of the caliper to clearance them.

    I cannot say how they'd fit with the Tacoma rims.
     
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