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2nd gen slipping in the rain

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by FastPace, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Jan 19, 2017 at 11:57 PM
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    FastPace

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    Hey guys, I have a 2015 double cab sport.. I am currently running Toyo at2s underneath my truck. It's been raining decent in California here, so I finally get a chance to see how these Toyos are.

    I notice that during some turns, my truck tends to slip or have the tail swing out a bit.. I am not going fast either. I wanted to test it at around 50mph (empty lot).

    There are a few other instances where my truck tends to slip as well. At first I was really confident in this truck in the rain, but now I am a little weary and feel a bit unsafe. Is it me, the driver?

    I know, I am not reckless and am putting anyone else in harm. On the street with people around, I drive extra safe. I just wanted to know what this truck is capable of.
     
  2. Jan 20, 2017 at 1:01 AM
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    inwood customs

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    Pic of tread depth?
    What suspension mods have you done?
    What tire pressure is being run?

    Remember, the rear of these trucks is light.
     
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  3. Jan 20, 2017 at 1:20 AM
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    TegoTaco

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    Just take it easy in the rain. When it's raining, i take gently around turns or just be more cautious.
     
  4. Jan 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM
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    My regular cab was doing the same thing with my old tires. I just put on a new set and haven't had a problem since. I know my truck is a lot lighter than yours but, worn out tires + rain = no good.
     
  5. Jan 20, 2017 at 1:32 AM
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    AT tires are NOT rain tires...and summer time heat tends to bake the rain stickiness out of tires also. Many in my area have gone from the AT type tires to the Michelin MS/2 with excellent results on everything but mud and deep snow.

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  6. Jan 20, 2017 at 1:38 AM
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    kickasssloth

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    Not surprising really... It's a decently long vehicle with a very light rear end, slightly top heavy, you've got hard AT tires and it's wet...

    It's going to slide a little.

    Just go slow and take it easy. Remember too if it's cold you're just going to have even less traction. Personally I like to slide and spin the wheels for a couple of corners/stop lights on cold wet mornings when safe (I'm a very experienced driver/racer) and it makes a decent difference to get heat in the tires, but I DONT recomend that for everyone. Just note that it effects things.

    If you'd feel more confident, try taking an advance driving course or something similar.

    2nd gens (mine at least) handle very well and are very controlable even when they do let go, it's not going to let you down if you know how to handle it. :)
     
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  7. Jan 20, 2017 at 2:03 AM
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    JWROSE4

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    I have the AT2's also. Mine does the same in the rain. They seem to do alot better in mud and I dont know about snow yet, but Im told they do great. We shall see if the snow ever decides to hit us this year.
     
  8. Jan 20, 2017 at 2:43 AM
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    I have 265/75/16 Toyo AT2s, (LT with the deeper tread depth), and I will also slip and slide if it's just heavily started to rain. Key is just take it easy when you accelerate from a stop or a turn, and give yourself adequate room to turn into traffic. If you just baby the gas pedal you won't slip at all.

    Driving at speed in the rain on these tires has been no issue for me though.

    EDIT: I should rephrase based on rereading the OP. On my Toyos I've never experienced any sort of tail end swing or anything crazy. ONLY slippage on acceleration from green lights and that is 100% my driving style causing it. If I chill and take it nice and easy off the get go theres no slippage. The tires have been great IMO.
     
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  9. Jan 20, 2017 at 4:56 AM
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    Its the tires. I had duratracs that were absolutely horrible in the rain. It was like driving on ice when the roads were wet with those tires. I finally got rid of them and got falken wildpeaks. They are the complete opposite on wet roads. They stick great.
     
  10. Jan 20, 2017 at 5:24 AM
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    I hated driving the truck in the rain, until I got KO2's.

    My only other experience was with the Dunflops tho and we all know how well those handle :facepalm:
     
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  11. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:45 AM
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    That's odd, I just got some duratracs awhile back and they have been pretty good in the rain for me.

    I did a lot of research before I bought them, it seems that everyone either loves them, or hates them.
     
  12. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:49 AM
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    I have the same tires and they're fine for me. Throw some weight in the back if it's problematic.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2017 at 9:40 AM
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    They were good for about the first 15-20k miles. After that they were horrible. Given that the tread will last about 60k miles, I only got about a 1/3 of usable life out of them.
     
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    Slow the f*ck down in inclement weather, maybe?

    Never fails that when it rains in the Phoenix area you hear sirens within 20 minutes because people just fail to realize that asphalt isn't the same surface wet as it is dry.

    I grew up on the Oregon Coast and it rains... ALL THE TIME. Rear wheel drive vehicles with bald tires + driving per the conditions = staying in control.
     
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  15. Jan 20, 2017 at 9:51 AM
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    I have the Hankook Dynapro ATm's and I absolutely hate them in the rain. They scared the hell out of me the other day when trying to merge onto the interstate. Just got to slow down more I guess.:notsure:
     
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    I have Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx's now and do well enough on wet pavement, but they aren't a true AT tire, more hybrid AT/MT tread. I had the Michelin LTX M/S2 on before and would say it is a great tire on wet pavement. Also excelled at all conditions on road and highway - wet, standing water, icy, snow, dry. I burried a 1" screw in the outer portion of the tread at some point and didn't have any leaks from that luckily. They also were surprisingly functional at speed on dirt roads, however they sucked at loose beach sand even when aired down and didn't inspire any sort of confidence in mud or even wet dirt. They did last over 60k mi and probably had another 10k if I hadn't neglected to get an alignment after installing an ARB bumper. Brought the front end down and I wore the inner edge of the tread away up front. Would recommend the michelins if you mostly stick to roads especially if you do a fair amount of time in seasonal wet/snow/ice road conditions.
     
  17. Jan 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM
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    I was recently wondering the same thing. I have an F250 and my Taco. Both with brand new Firestone Destination A/Ts.

    I find in the rain I slip in the Tacoma pretty easy. I don't have the same issue in the Ford which leads me to believe its not weight or the tire.

    I was wondering if its the brakes? Do modern day brakes allow for rolling stops? I feel like Toyota brakes are more touchy in the rain/moisture. I have noticed this in the Tacoma but also family members Highlander and Rav 4. Wondering if the brakes are clamping too hard too soon causing a slide rather than rolling stop????
     
  18. Jan 20, 2017 at 10:14 AM
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    Covered in stickers and chrome stick-ons for extra horse torques and foot powers. Icon sticker gets me tons of travel, dozens of milimeters.
    You have all terrain tires which are notably horrible in the rain. Get road tires or be gentle. You're experiencing a normal side-effect of taking a vehicle away from factory spec.
     
  19. Jan 20, 2017 at 10:16 AM
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    Slipping in the rain may improve your drifting skills.
     
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    I have the KO2's and the only time the rear end breaks loose on me is when I try to drive the truck aggressively around turns or from a stop.
     
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