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3.4L supercharger

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CHMM, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. May 18, 2020 at 7:14 PM
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    1997tacomav6

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    Some states don’t allow methonal, probably Cal.

    I’m serious, you can spray water by itself.

    For cooling on hot days and changing the air mixture to a denser mixture.

    Before the methonal kit I would have huge swings in power from a 100 degree dry air,

    But on a cool foggy or rainy day I would have fantastic power huge difference.

    Hot air is thin, cold damp air is heavy.


    Water injection would drop the supercharger temps by 100 degrees

    You would have heavier cooler dense air.

    You would use a much larger nozzle maybe a #6 compared to a 1 or 2.

    Now my power is pretty much the same at 100 degrees as at 60 degrees
     
  2. May 18, 2020 at 7:18 PM
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    How are you watching your supercharger temps?
     
  3. May 18, 2020 at 7:20 PM
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    You can shoot it with a lazer heat gun.

    I can put my hand on my supercharger anytime and it’s never to hot to pull it back.

    Before the methonal the supercharger was like a heat sink
     
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  4. May 18, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Gotcha.

    Just out of curiosity it would be nice to have a sensor in the supercharger so I could see exactly how much my water/meth spray is cooling it. It's obviously working though because my pulls are way more consistent than without it.
     
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  5. May 18, 2020 at 7:26 PM
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    Oh I didn't realize you can run 100% water, at that point why not do methanol too though. Also cali smog but hate it so if you do it right they might not even notice. But yeah cali laws suck.
     
  6. May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM
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    Depending on the truck and motor it might or might not need the methonal, the added fuel part.

    Not all supercharged Tacoma need the added fuel, some do, some don’t. Mine doesn’t unless I use
    a 2” , 2.1” pulley.

    If I run a stock pulley or a 2.2 pulley I don’t need the added methonal fuel, the stock system does just fine and

    If I used methonal with the stock pulley or 2.2 pulley I would run rich.

    But I could run just the water if I wanted too with the larger pulleys.
     
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  7. May 18, 2020 at 8:12 PM
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    Spraying water in the intake was called the "military tune up" iirc
     
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  8. May 18, 2020 at 8:36 PM
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    Might run this by but somehow I don't think he's going to be much happier with it.
     
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  9. May 19, 2020 at 3:34 PM
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    Figured this would be the place to post this since a lot of you have done this with the supercharger.
    Anyways, currently needing a new crank pulley. I don’t care for the “added performance” of the LCE lightweight pulley As I don’t believe it really does that much but more so that it’s only $190 (and made by LCE) vs $600 oem is what my local Toyota quoted also found for $400 on Toyota oem direct but still pretty damn expensive.

    That being said my question is:
    I’ve heard a rumor on here that adding a lighter crank pulley can in turn cause excessive wear on internals as not having the vibration dampening of a heavier pulley. This sound like a plausible idea but also sounds kinda ridiculous so figured I would ask if there’s any actual proof to this or if it’s just a skeptical idea
    I think either way I will be buying the LCE as I don’t really have another option and it’s quality.

    btw, I am not supercharged if that matters
     
  10. May 19, 2020 at 5:04 PM
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    X2
    I would like to know this question too from somethat that has one installed
     
  11. May 19, 2020 at 8:13 PM
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  12. May 20, 2020 at 7:20 AM
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  13. May 20, 2020 at 7:24 AM
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    1997tacomav6 V6 5sp,RegCab,TRD Supercharger,2"pulley,meth, 625k

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  14. May 20, 2020 at 7:27 AM
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    So what makes it worth it? Even just buying the supercharge at $3500 seems like a high price.
     
  15. May 20, 2020 at 7:30 AM
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    I don’t think it’s worth it, just my 2 cents
     
  16. May 20, 2020 at 7:33 AM
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    LOLOL Most honest answer I've heard.
     
  17. May 20, 2020 at 7:38 AM
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    Headers are nice but the most expensive upgrade for the least amount of performance and PITA to install. If you can’t install them it will cost 800-1000 for a shop to spend 10 hours install them and you will need welding done more than likely.
    That was my last engine upgrade
     
  18. May 20, 2020 at 7:46 AM
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    I was looking into headers but I heard they're kind of pointless without a S.C. Is that true? I'm looking for performance without breaking the bank.
     
  19. May 20, 2020 at 7:55 AM
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    Even with supercharger they make only a small difference, at higher rpms you will feel a small difference,

    If your running out of mods for the engine then do them.
    I gain around 8 hp or something like that.
     
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  20. May 21, 2020 at 10:37 PM
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    I installed a new pulley boys 2.2'' pulley today and have a few questions regarding my findings.

    First of all, I found a little pool of oil behind the pulley. I wiped up a little bit of it before taking this picture. Is this normal? I replaced this seal less than a year ago with an upgraded viton seal from rolling performance.

    IMG_8739.jpg

    Also, when I put my pulley boys 2.2'' on, I just ran it on with an impact and it pushed all the way up to the supercharger nose to the point where it wouldn't spin. I had to pull the pulley back a little bit so that it could freely spin. Is this normal? My URD pulley seemed to bump up to the flange on the end of the nose cone shaft and would freely spin even if I ran it on with an impact.

    Finally, with the 2.2'' pulley I'm making 7 lbs of boost on a cool damp day. Pulley boys says that I should be making 9.5 lbs with the 2.2''. Can the lost 2.5 lbs be from my JBA headers?
     
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