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3.4L supercharger

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CHMM, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. Nov 14, 2022 at 12:48 PM
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    Question about fuel trims with a SC.
    Been about 100 or so miles with my 3rz SC I installed, and just got my scan gauge setup to read LTFT and STFT values.

    SFTF moves around in the single digits mostly as expected, but the LTFT is at about 11 idle and then goes up to 20's or so with heavier throttle usage. I have the OEM FPR setup as boost referenced.
    I'm trying to determine if that's normal behavior or not. Seems that the LTFT should be closer to zero? Or maybe not since the FPR is referencing boost so adding more pressure, therefore more fuel volume?

    LCE says that it takes a couple hundred miles for the computer to adjust so maybe that will change long term?
     
  2. Nov 14, 2022 at 1:28 PM
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    Remember that a negative fuel trim is rich and a positive number indicates a lean condition.
     
  3. Nov 14, 2022 at 1:32 PM
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    Correct. The LTFT values are positive indicating a lean condition. Computer trying to add more fuel to compensate for a higher volume of air.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2022 at 4:42 PM
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    Does anyone have TRD headers with the SC?
    Are the trd headers worth it? Or are stock good enough?
     
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  5. Nov 14, 2022 at 4:58 PM
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    Just install a turbo and forget about the TRD headers.
     
  6. Nov 14, 2022 at 5:09 PM
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    Will never pass emissions
     
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  7. Nov 14, 2022 at 5:10 PM
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    I did a before and after dyno.
    I gain 10-12 hp with Doug Thorley headers,
     
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  8. Nov 14, 2022 at 5:13 PM
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    I do. They came with the truck though, PO installed them. So I can't compare to stock headers. They sound good I know that much lol
     
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  9. Nov 14, 2022 at 6:45 PM
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    Same!
     
  10. Nov 14, 2022 at 7:33 PM
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    Did you feel the difference? Seller is asking $1.2k
    Don't know if it's worth it
     
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    Is your truck loud?
     
  12. Nov 14, 2022 at 8:17 PM
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    Headers are the last thing to add for powers because the price is expensive for the trade off in power,
    Yes you will feel a small difference,
    Trd and Doug Thorley power gains are probably going to be close.
    Did NOT make my exhaust too much louder.
     
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  13. Nov 15, 2022 at 10:08 AM
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    I have TRD headers with TRD super Charger. after market muffler. I love it. idk if it makes more power than other headers because I've had these on since I got it

    edit, but I really like the sound
     
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    Not really, just has a throatier sound to it than a stock header v6. It was a lot louder when I had this on it, cut it off for my axle dump a few years back. Was getting too friendly with rocks

    PXL_20220911_191357821.jpg
     
  15. Nov 15, 2022 at 10:26 AM
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    image.jpgthese are the headers (found picture on another thread)

    do you have these headers? so I imagine that you do have trd headers if you have a TRD tail pipe but headers come right off the block
     
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    Yes I have the TRD headers, I just mentioned the exhaust tip because he was asking if my truck was loud.
     
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    oooooo totally, I should have read a little more carefully. doi
     
  18. Nov 15, 2022 at 8:02 PM
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    That's good to know. I'm not too much into loud exhaust systems
     
  19. Nov 15, 2022 at 8:04 PM
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    What muffler do you have? I'm also going to need a new exhaust. Mine has 2 holes right before the cat
     
  20. Nov 15, 2022 at 8:06 PM
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    I'm tempted to get them but the price point turns me away
     

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