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3rd Gen 110v Rear Winch?

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by Andrew18, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:55 PM
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    Hey guys, I have an idea brewing in my mind and wanted to see if it’s been done or if anyone has some suggestions.



    I’d like to get a winch for the taco, but don’t want a new front bumper, so I’d like to mount it in the back. I already have an idea of how to weld together a custom mount for the trailer hitch, but I can’t find a 110v winch with enough power. It would be nice to just plug into the outlet in the bed and go. I could run wire back from the battery, but it would be a little bit of a pain. Any suggestions?
     
  2. Mar 26, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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    Youll have a hard time running any decent winch on the 400w available in the bed. A warn XD9 needs 5,736 watts at full power.
     
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    I've never heard of a 110v winch, except for the ones designed for hoisting an engine in a shop...

    All truck winches I've ever seen are 12v.

    And you never hook a winch to anything but direct to the battery anyway.

    Get one of these, and a quick connect wire harness, and yeah, you'll need to pull the wires from the battery.
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/warn-multi-mount-winch-carrier-kit-70919/_/R-BCSQ-70919?ecmp=A:CJ_Off-Road+Parts+%26+Accessories+-+4+Wheel+Parts_FTI_2206300&emlprox=out&ppcfon=1&gp=1&sc_intid=WAR70919&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIiKXPyrmj4QIVEp-fCh1JMwgKEAQYBSABEgJJc_D_BwE%3AG%3As&s_kwcid=AL%217836%213%21172972240203%21%21%21g%21322668231115%21&utm_campaign=Off-Road+Parts+%26+Accessories+-+4+Wheel+Parts&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=FTI&utm_content=2206300&textlink=10459876&cjevent=7fefe316519c11e981c201360a240614

    And one of these for the front, then you can have a front and rear hitch (just an example, tho, this is for up to a '15 so it may not fit your '18).
    https://www.4xinnovations.com/2005--2015-Tacoma-Front-Hidden-Hitch-Receiver_p_26.html
     
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    I recently researched this issue as part of my solar power project. The biggest problem with the AC winches is that they are not weatherproof. Here are the two I found:

    Warn 3000 ACI: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200442149_200442149
    Superwinch 3000: https://superwinch.com/pages/superwinch-ac-powered-winches

    You need at least a 2kw inverter to run these winches, and at least one snatch block would needed because they are underpowered. There is no way you can run them from the stock inverter which is only 400 watts.
     
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    And you'd be doing it wrong. stick with 12 volt as inverters sacrifice some of the power in converting from 12v DC to 120AC.
     
  6. Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    And at that distance, you should check the gauge of cables you'll need. That same 9000lb warn I quoted above wants 478 amps at full power at 12v. That's going to be some fat wire if you don't want them to melt. I suspect some 3/0 welding cable might work.
     
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    No actually, the biggest problem with those is that they aren't vehicle recovery winches.

    Those winches are ridiculously under powered and shouldn't be used for vehicle recovery . Even a snatch block only gives you a 6000# pull, which barely over the GVWR to begin with. The *minimum* winch you should get should be rated at 1.5x the GVWR.

    These winches are less than half the rating you should be using for a vehicle winch for a Tacoma (8k pounds).
     
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    I disagree about the winch ratings. For many years I could not afford a winch, so I used a "come along" hand winch rated at 4000 pounds along with some slings left over from my rock climbing days, a good hydraulic jack, and two shovels. I remember the last recovery I did with this setup. I was driving alone in my 2WD truck at around midnight on a muddy rural dirt road and slid into a ditch on the side of a steep hill. I could not open the drivers door because the mud was blocking the door. It took me about 2 hours to get out; I dug a "T" trench and buried one of the shovels for an anchor, and winched off of that. I was lucky that the mud was sort of slippery rather than bottomless, so I didn't need to use the jack. Of course if I had had a high capacity electric winch and a pull-pal it would have taken like 15 minutes to get out; but I was a poor student at the time, so that was not an option.

    The point is that you can use winch with a lower rating if you use your creativity and have lots of time.
     
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  10. Apr 29, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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    You can disagree all you want, but the minimum rating I talked about is not my opinion, that's an industry standard. No one with actual vehicle recovery experience would ever recommend going with a smaller capacity than that 1.5x standard.

    That one winch you posted cost $1000+ for a 3000# capacity non-weather proof a/c winch. Literally everything about that winch makes is a terrible choice for putting on a truck. Why not spend $299 and get a 12v 8000# vehicle recovery winch instead?

    Hell, spend $699 and get a vehicle winch with 4x the capacity (a Warn VR12).
     
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