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4.7 Swap Project Thoughts?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SurviveToRide, Apr 26, 2020.

  1. Apr 26, 2020 at 12:23 PM
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    I would like to start off by saying this is very hypothetical, and if I ever decide to do a swap like this it will be a long while from now. However, I know you guys are experts on everything Toyota so I figured I’d ask some questions regarding swapping 4.7 V8 from a 4Runner or Tundra into a 2nd gen Tacoma. Would the engine mounts be the same as the 4Runner, since they’re basically the same truck? Also would the Tacoma’s factory 5 or 6 speed manual trannys bolt up to the 4.7? There’s no way I would keep the auto. Also before you go saying “oh just manual swap a 4Runner it’ll be easier and more reliable” I don’t wanna hear it. It would be more of a fun project than anything else. If there’s already a thread on this topic please link me to it but everything I find isn’t “fun project” oriented it’s more of “I wanna tow more” thanks.
     
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    If you're doing a tundra swap go with the 5.7

    More powah, same mpg, hydraulic lifters, chain drive, less maintenance. Even on the Tundra forums it's all about the 5.7
     
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    I’ll look into that too, I was just thinking more along the lines of 4.7 because it came in the 4Runner it should fit without a problem. If I wanted more power and didn’t care about fit I’d go LS
     
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    seems like a lot of work to do, better off just buying a complete v8 vehicle and use it instead
     
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    I definietly wouldnt bother with the old from the 90's 4.7L v8.

    Now the 1UR from the newer tundra, the 4.6L would be a pretty bitchin motor, the 1UR.

    But realistically, the most power, easiest swap, and damned reliable would be an LS swap.
     
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    It’s more about the project than the end result.
     
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    Mikey Swartz is in the process.

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    LS fits into the Tacoma bay real easy because it’s SOHC. Everything else is a bitch though, especially wiring.
    5.7 would be cool but a shit ton of work whereas 4.7L is comparatively easy. Making it manual will be the hard part. I think that combination has existed in SA and Australia in some Land Cruisers
     
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    LS is a pushrod motor, things are a tiny package. Relative to their cubic size.
     
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    Let’s first start with its bad manners to ask people for information or advice and then say oh I don’t wanna hear advice that varies from my parameters. Just quietly filter out the stuff you don’t want to know.
    Here is a video that may help you. It looks like a complex swap? https://youtu.be/RgmsGX9J0aM
     
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    The 1UR has been in the GX460 since 2010... that would be the vehicle to pull it all from. 6 speed auto and AWD if you want it.
     
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    As a corvette owner I will tell you the ls1 would be a great swap but it’s not without complications. Getting the ecu to adapt to the Tacoma and the block to adapt to the tranny is foremost and I don’t even know if our automatics can handle 350 hp but I suspect they can. Then you have the maintenance costs as everything for the LS is priced like it’s made of titanium. The oil pressure sending unit has a design flaw and the knock sensors require a ton of work to replace when they go bad... and they will. But overall the LS will last almost as long as our 4.0s.
     
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    Sorry, not trying to coma across as a jackass. I’ve looked through all the threads about the 4.7 swap I could find and most of them end in “just get a 4Runner” because the guy lookin to swap it just wanted to tow more or something. Which makes sense, don’t tear apart your truck just because you think it’ll be an easy way to tow more. But I was thinking of more of a project, hence why I don’t care if there are easier options. Not that I have the money right now lol. Basically I wanted to know if you could re use the 4Runner engine mounts in the Taco, which is doubtful, and if there was a manual trans to easily bolt on to. If neither of those work out, an LS or a Vortec would totally be the better option.
     
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    There is a 5 speed manual trans that bolts to the 2UZ 4.7L, it was used in foreign market 100 Series Land Cruisers. It's the H150F series, but it has the old style Land Cruiser transfer case with both driveshafts on the passenger side drop. The H was used in the Land Cruiser 200, so the t-case adapter could be swapped and a 2nd Gen Tundra transfer case bolted up... or possibly a bell housing swap depending on the input shaft length.
     
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    A guy I know just got his running less than a week ago. 4 7 donor out of a Tundra that had been used as a jaws of life training vehicle. Tacoma was a 4 cylinder, 5 speed.

    Runs and drives, some of the gauges work. Its running the Tundra automatic for now. The 4.7 looks like it should have been there from the factory.
     
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    Yeah it’s sweet looking in the taco engine bay but tight, which will suck for working around. The 2uz is being touted as the next generation 22r when it comes to longevity and bullet proof design. Not sure if that’s true but wouldn’t surprise me.
     
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    The 2UZ is a long-lived workhorse, but the 4.6L 1UR gets my vote for its chain driven cams alone. I've replaced a 2UZ timing belt in a 100 series and it was a long day. Because of the belt vs. chain distinction, not sure how I see the comparison to a 22R other than they both produce low power for their displacement and because of that, will likely last a long time. Haha!

    In addition, the 2UZ has an aluminum block, aluminum heads and dual VVti and with a decent bump in output compared to the 2UZ. It's been out 10+ years so sourcing one shouldn't be an issue. If you don't have the guts to hack up a Tacoma like Mikey Swartz is doing to add a 5.7L 3UR, the 1UR gets the DesertRatliff stamp of approval for a theoretical V8 swap. And that's worth a nickle in some states....:D
     
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